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    The Memes Justify the End EcK's Avatar
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    OH we're so not talking about it anymore. Have fun reading through the thread.
    Expression of the post modern paradox : "For the love of god, religions are so full of shit"

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    He'll come around maybe...
    He "owes" me an explanation, hopefully he'll post it soon enough.
    Sometimes I feel like I'm "on Mercury"-

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    sorry it took so long, I procrastinate too much.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dwigie View Post
    Thoughts are but a reflection of your past state, attachments an entity bound to your future state, and together they enslave a person to a reality of nothingness where the best scenario is death and the worst a contemplation of suicide.
    I am having a lot of trouble understanding exactly what you mean by this paragraph above. Can you re-explain it to me please?(I mean that in the least aggressive and disagreeable manner of course)
    In death reality is neither bound to the past nor the future because neither one exists,
    Hm?- I'm lost here too.
    living in the present, the moment, you arent obsessing about what happened in the past or how you are going to get somthing in the future, your goal of "happpiness or Well being" is being lived and you are free from all attachments. "death", in this context, is merely the end of these attachments of the past or future.

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    in death your existence is reborn to a reality living in the present grasping that feeling that seemed to always torment you and slip from the fringes of your mind -- But I thought we weren't talking about physical death? I'm seriously getting lost..
    The dramatic change of your mental state is the metaphysical death... within the state where you have attachments, attachments of the futue have "goals" and your mind is attampting to grasp these "goals"; where the ultimate goal is happiness.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dwigie View Post
    happiness; the feeling of well being; a state where the current mind is one with your surroundings and your instinctual desires( what do you mean by instinctual desire?) depicted by these present entities; the oneness of self.
    "instictual desires" are the "goals" that your attachments wouldve had if your mental state didnt change to "living in the moment".

    Quote Originally Posted by Dwigie View Post
    Only(why "only?") in death can one be free and only(same) in freedom can one be happy. So, do I truly want freedom, you ask? I want it with every living breath that I make, every step that I take, and every fiber of my being that lights my existence; The only thing in life that is important enough to die for, on more than one level...
    By definition its "only", but i can see why you would question that with the lack of specific knowledge pertaining to the phrase.


    Quote Originally Posted by Dwigie View Post
    Basically you desire freedom above all or am I way out of line here?
    yep.

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    Yes, learning to live in the moment has been the solution to the "freedom problem" for me.
    "No ray of sunshine is ever lost, but the green which it awakes into existence needs time to sprout, and it is not always granted to the sower to see the harvest. All work that is worth anything is done in faith." - Albert Schweitzer

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    I see now. Thanks for taking the time to re-explain, I appreciate .
    Sometimes I feel like I'm "on Mercury"-

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwigie View Post
    I see now. Thanks for taking the time to re-explain, I appreciate .
    np

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    In death, you don't have attachments, but you also don't have anything else. No choices, no options, no control, no will, no consciousness. There is no freedom in that. The OP fails to observe the bigger picture.

    Also, freedom and happiness aren't mutually bound.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Poriferan View Post
    In death, you don't have attachments, but you also don't have anything else. No choices, no options, no control, no will, no consciousness. There is no freedom in that. The OP fails to observe the bigger picture.

    Also, freedom and happiness aren't mutually bound.
    You really got me, after all i never thought of any of that... well now that my mind has been enlightened slightly im thinking about improving my "observation" skills, care to help?

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    Quote Originally Posted by metamorphysics View Post
    You really got me, after all i never thought of any of that... well now that my mind has been enlightened slightly im thinking about improving my "observation" skills, care to help?
    Not really.
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    Death is freedom !
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