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    Quote Originally Posted by heart View Post
    There's no hope for people with such bleeding hearts, they are part of the reason evil flourishes.

    Yes, lack of empathy, when desire for power takes the place of desire for love, that's what I would say makes the difference. The little Hitlers of the world, estimated as 1 in 30. Socialized psychopaths are the more intelligent ones who learn how to work within the law to get their power kicks, they hurt people throughout their lives and get away with it. And there's always, always, always people ready to defend them, give them "second chance" because so many people cannot handle the concept of evil in others.

    Then there's also corrupt judgment and people who don't balance their T-F use. To veer too far in either direction T or F I think leaves a person lopsided in their judgment and open to create havoc for others.
    You can be soft and still make the right judgement when confronted with evil.

    For myself I see someone as being bad, when they do a bad thing to someone else and don;t even feel remorse over it.
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    It's in the eyes.

    ... you'll know a sociopath, or any two-bit 'degenerate' by his/her eyes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BerberElla View Post
    You can be soft and still make the right judgement when confronted with evil...
    I meant bleeding hearts who want to excuse evil. I know people like this. Being too soft means being too soft, not being balanced between being able to make judgments when needed and to give leniancy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heart View Post
    I meant bleeding hearts who want to excuse evil. I know people like this. Being too soft means being too soft, not being balanced between being able to make judgments when needed and to give leniancy.
    I know, I was totally agreeing with you there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BerberElla View Post
    I know, I was totally agreeing with you there.
    I was afraid I hadn't made myself clear.

    I seriously have known people like this who seemed to have a pathological compulsion to excuse or turn a blind eye to evil in the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heart View Post
    I meant bleeding hearts who want to excuse evil. I know people like this. Being too soft means being too soft, not being balanced between being able to make judgments when needed and to give leniancy.
    Agreed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heart View Post
    I was afraid I hadn't made myself clear.
    I just re-read my reply lol it was I who didn't make my agreement clear.

    I just meant those bleeding hearts take the whole concept of being too soft to a whole other level. I'm soft, sometimes too soft, but I can make the right judgement under the right circumstances and it constantly amazes me when people try to excuse such behaviour.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anja View Post
    Yes, I agree with you, Lexicon. You can't do much good in the world if you don't take care of yourself.

    Your answer, as you seem to have already noticed, is in your question. "Consistently at the cost of others."

    Edit: I suppose I could have added your italicized words, but it seemed implied to me. "Consistently" by itself wouldn't be good, I think. I'm thinking of mother/child relationships in this sense. But I think there could be other situations where the safety of others was concerned.

    Yeah I figured it was implied... and I totally agree; if you're a parent or have otherwise agreed to hold accountability for a life beyond your own.. you can't really cry out "every man for himself!" in a crisis, etc, and not expect to be deemed "bad."
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    Quote Originally Posted by heart View Post
    I seriously have known people like this who seemed to have a pathological compulsion to excuse or turn a blind eye to evil in the world.
    I guess I'm one of those people. I really don't believe in evil. Just selfishness and bad choices.
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    There seems to be at least two levels of people who get labeled as bad.

    One level is badness where the person actively wants to hurt others, take advantage of them, very anti-social in nature. I do not run across those often. I see them more as "pure evil," they actively intend to hurt others.

    More common is badness where the person is responding with ill-suited or ineffecient behaviors that are causing distress to themselves or others not because they're trying to be jerks but because it's the best solution they have at the moment... and if their eyes are opened and they see a "better" solution, they would take it. People at only operate at their maximum developed potential at the time, and cannot long-term be more than they are.

    I think a lot of people in the second category get stuck in the first category by people who don't understand their motivations or that they're trying. Still, even if a dog can't help but run around and bite people because it was beaten as a puppy doesn't mean that we shouldn't inhibit the dog's behavior in some way.

    (Good topic.)
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