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    Is it important? If so, why?

    Don't confuse equality with respect, please.
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    Equality in political rights?

    Equality in economic opportunities?

    Social equality?

    Balance in power between nations?

    "Equality" encompasses a variety of topics, are we going to narrow it down or talk about all sorts of types of equality?

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    It's a cultural value.
    Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty.

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    Equality in opportunity/chances to obtain X or Y? Yes....

    Equal in terms of sheer probability? Will never happen

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    Might makes right. The zeitgeist just makes it taste democratish at the time.

    The obsession with pure equality is not even applicable to fundamental particles for gods sake.
    It's just for people who are so afraid they suck they want to pull everybody else down to their level.

    I say the economical, social and political structures + the zeitgeist (values , freedom, bla bla) are already offering enough equal chances or maybe too much.

    And let's face it, what most people say and don't even realise they say is 'equality by dragging people down' and pushing the masses up.

    A retard who'll never amount to anything in his life will get about 20times the support given to a smart, interesting, and curious kid.
    How does that even make sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EcK View Post
    The rest is all about losers complaining all the time.
    Which includes you Mr. 100% P.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LostInNerSpace View Post
    Which includes you Mr. 100% P.
    ur oratory skills are so impressive.
    Expression of the post modern paradox : "For the love of god, religions are so full of shit"

    Theory is always superseded by Fact...
    ... In theory.

    “I’d hate to die twice. It’s so boring.”
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    "Great is the human who has not lost his childlike heart."
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    Quote Originally Posted by EcK View Post
    A retard who'll never amount to anything in his life will get about 20times the support given to a smart, interesting, and curious kid.
    How does that even make sense.
    It doesn't make sense, but it seems fair... and therefore somehow right. In some weird cosmic sense.
    Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EcK View Post
    Might makes right. The zeitgeist just makes it taste democratish at the time.

    The obsession with pure equality is not even applicable to fundamental particles for gods sake.
    It's just for people who are so afraid they suck they want to pull everybody else down to their level.

    I say the economical, social and political structures + the zeitgeist (values , freedom, bla bla) are already offering enough equal chances or maybe too much.

    And let's face it, what most people say and don't even realise they say is 'equality by dragging people down' and pushing the masses up.

    A retard who'll never amount to anything in his life will get about 20times the support given to a smart, interesting, and curious kid.
    How does that even make sense.
    I tend to agree.

    Quote Originally Posted by Metamorphosis View Post
    Equality is a limiting belief. To say that you can't be less than someone else is to also say that you can't be more.
    That's what made me start this thread, actually, and it's interesting to see the differing view points.

    Quote Originally Posted by FemmeUrbane View Post
    It doesn't make sense, but it seems fair... and therefore somehow right. In some weird cosmic sense.
    It sounds good, in theory, but it's what creates problems like those seen in our school structure. Everyone forced to perform at one level to bring up the people that don't care while giving those who excel no opportunity for further advancement/no challenge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FemmeUrbane View Post
    It doesn't make sense, but it seems fair... and therefore somehow right. In some weird cosmic sense.
    By giving to everybody, you feed nobody.
    You sometimes have to make sacrifices for the sake of efficiency.

    You can't spend a million dollar on every patient in a hospital for example, just because everybody deserves it. You'll just end up condamning the next generation in the best case, millions now if you're not that lucky.

    If you push every kid up and say the bright to go fuck themselves and get into the system, you are more likely to create people that will just support what already exists than create a new tomorrow. And may I remind you that our societies are based on growth and innovation. The lack of it is pretty much what killed every ancient civilization, but I disgress.

    Equality is a nice utopia, but now the sad reality we have to accept is that your everyday joe doesn't help that process much, it's the bright and rare that do. But those are too often left behind for the sake of equality.

    Why? Because if you try "equaling people up", chances are people will get left behind.
    So the 'solution' is to let the world drow into mediocrity. This is the price we pay for an ego boost.

    equality is the coward's choice.
    Expression of the post modern paradox : "For the love of god, religions are so full of shit"

    Theory is always superseded by Fact...
    ... In theory.

    “I’d hate to die twice. It’s so boring.”
    Richard Feynman's last recorded words

    "Great is the human who has not lost his childlike heart."
    Mencius (Meng-Tse), 4th century BCE

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