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    Meh. This is an argument.

    But not everything is as black and white is this. Sometimes it's a bit more simple. Sometimes it's just a notion as simple as fairness...

    Give someone the option of being more than what they are. Let them prove it. Veil of ignorance is a beautiful thing.
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    People are not equal. Their potentials, their abilities, their faults, their deficiencies, are not equal. Telling people they are is silly, idealist, and disingenuous.



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    Quote Originally Posted by FemmeUrbane View Post
    Give someone the option of being more than what they are. Let them prove it. Veil of ignorance is a beautiful thing.
    Isn't this exactly what I'm saying? Or are you implying that people are only equal until they prove otherwise?
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    How things should be VS. How they are

    I'll stay in this world of idealism, tyvm. It gives me something to work/hope towards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Metamorphosis View Post
    Isn't this exactly what I'm saying? Or are you implying that people are only equal until they prove otherwise?
    I think it's a classic case of getting to the same conclusion BUT through different routes.

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    Equality does not mean making everyone the same. It refers giving everyone a subjectively equal opportunity to enjoy the fruits of their labor.

    A democratic society cannot function without at least an illusion of equality.

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    In America everybody's "equal" but the middle-class.
    "No ray of sunshine is ever lost, but the green which it awakes into existence needs time to sprout, and it is not always granted to the sower to see the harvest. All work that is worth anything is done in faith." - Albert Schweitzer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Not_Me View Post
    Equality does not mean making everyone the same. It refers giving everyone a subjectively equal opportunity to enjoy the fruits of their labor.

    A democratic society cannot function without at least an illusion of equality.
    In theory. In practice this equates to some carrying others. I don't disagree with the importance of the appearance, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Metamorphosis View Post
    In theory. In practice this equates to some carrying others.
    Yes, but there's no telling whether you will be the carrier or the carried. Suppose you suffer a debilitating accident?

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    Equality under the law, as far as one's civil rights is the only case that I think applies universially.

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