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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Liquid_Laser View Post
    I'm not sure if Intelligent Design and Creationism are the same thing. I've seen people say this, but it is always people denouncing one or the other. They may be the same or it might be a straw man. I'm not sure.
    They can easily be the same thing if evolution were the "tool" God used to craft mankind, much akin to God using that fiery meteor to destroy Sodom and Gamorah.

    All you have to do to bring the two together is NOT take the stories of the OT literally and accept it as an inspirational work of literature. Since most assume this anyway, and I say again, the whole damn thing is silly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Liquid_Laser View Post
    I'm not sure if Intelligent Design and Creationism are the same thing. I've seen people say this, but it is always people denouncing one or the other. They may be the same or it might be a straw man. I'm not sure.
    Quote Originally Posted by JocktheMotie View Post
    Well, creationism in the sense it includes divine input, not as in the story of Creation in Genesis. I'm just going by a quick scan of the Wikipedia and ID website, because like I said, I don't know much about it and never found evolution lacking anything as a theory.
    What are you two talkin' about?

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    Intelligent design does not necessitate a creator. It could be aliens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Owl View Post
    Intelligent design does not necessitate a creator. It could be aliens.
    Go tell that to some proponents of the theory, and please report your findings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flak View Post
    Go tell that to some proponents of the theory, and please report your findings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flak View Post
    Go tell that to some proponents of the theory, and please report your findings.
    eh... no thanks. If I did, I'd hope they'd have the integrity to admit the insufficiency of teleological arguments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JocktheMotie View Post
    Well, creationism in the sense it includes divine input, not as in the story of Creation in Genesis. I'm just going by a quick scan of the Wikipedia and ID website, because like I said, I don't know much about it and never found evolution lacking anything as a theory.
    I think Creationism is teaching a literal account of Genesis as science. After looking at the FAQ on the ID website it sounds like they have a theistic element, but it isn't as specific as Creationism.
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    Perhaps we should make this more interesting and turn it into a discourse between Theistic Evolution and Secular Creationism.

    Yes people, both concepts exist - Google them if you don't believe me.

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    oh oh oh, can I be on the Theistic Evolution side?

    God likes to play dice.... with DNA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Owl View Post
    Intelligent design does not necessitate a creator. It could be aliens.
    Or the flying spaghetti monster.

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