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    I do not find Victor's writings especially weird. Even here. Why should I?
    "A man who only drinks water has a secret to hide from his fellow-men" -Baudelaire

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackmail! View Post
    I do not find Victor's writings especially weird. Even here. Why should I?
    Good on you, mate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackmail! View Post
    I do not find Victor's writings especially weird. Even here. Why should I?
    Weird is good. Looney!
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    Gosh, the world looks so small from up here on my high horse of menstruation.

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    I tend not to read 90% of Victor's posts simply because it's too notstraightforward. Many statements are made, which can only be interpreted as poetry, and I'm not a fan of that in general. When he goes on a metaphorical tangent I begin to lose my mind and patience. But perhaps this a fault of my own. I find his style quite poetic, but as I said, I am not a fan of reading poetry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by placebo View Post
    I tend not to read 90% of Victor's posts simply because it's too notstraightforward. Many statements are made, which can only be interpreted as poetry, and I'm not a fan of that in general. When he goes on a metaphorical tangent I begin to lose my mind and patience. But perhaps this a fault of my own. I find his style quite poetic, but as I said, I am not a fan of reading poetry.
    I have a totally opposite interpretation of Victor's posts. I do not see any "metaphor", or any "tangent", I find him refreshingly more straightforward and meaningfull than most shallow posters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackmail! View Post
    I have a totally opposite interpretation of Victor's posts. I do not see any "metaphor", or any "tangent", I find him refreshingly more straightforward and meaningfull than most shallow posters.


    Just looking back a few posts I find:

    Our dear Peguy is indeed the spokesman for the repressed.

    Peguy is immensely valuable in his nakedness.


    And it's true, that like Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden before the Fall, he is innocent of his nakedness.

    And it's his innocence that makes him the perfect mirror for the rest of us.

    We can hold him up and see what we are like inside.

    We are him, and he is us.
    To me this SEEMS like a metaphorical tangent. But as you and I both disagree over the nature of Victor's posts, then, well, maybe it is just a matter of perspective.

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    I fear you confuse tangent metaphor, with clarity in depth.

    Victor's post is very clear, very accurate. But it's dense, because each word has a purpose, despite their subtle sense of irony. You can't skip any.

    Placebo: What kind of books do you usually read? Maybe you simply aren't trained enough to read Victor's style?
    Victor is a very fast thinker, considerably more erudite than the average poster here. And I would understand It's not always easy to follow his pace.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackmail! View Post
    I fear you confuse tangent metaphor, with clarity in depth.

    Victor's post is very clear, very accurate. But it's dense, because each word has a purpose, despite their irony.

    Placebo: What kind of books do you usually read?

    tangent: A topic nearly unrelated to the main topic, but having a point in common with it.

    example: Our dear Peguy is indeed the spokesman for the repressed.
    Peguy is immensely valuable in his nakedness.
    unrelated topics: spokesman for the repressed; valuable in his nakedness
    common point: Peguy

    metaphor: One thing conceived as representing another; a symbol

    example: It's his innocence that makes him the perfect mirror for the rest of us.

    I do not deny that there may be clarity and depth to his sayings, I do not deny that they have a purpose, but there are indeed the use of similes and metaphors as well as the appearance of going off on a tangent. I do not always find his messages to be clearcut, I do not always agree with his metaphors. I do not always have the interest in putting the effort into trying to understand the meaning he is conveying with his words.

    I tend to read non-fiction books, and 'classics'. Currently I am reading Man's Search for Meaning by Viktor Frankl, from a recommendation by someone. The last fiction book I read was Brothers Karamazov by Fyodor Dostoevsky which I very much enjoyed. One of my favourite books is the Denial of Death by Ernest Becker. The next book I plan to read is Barack Obama's first book Dreams From my Father, lol, mainly because my sister has borrowed it (within reach) and I suppose it would be good to have a better idea about who the next president of the USA is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    So far I haven't decided whether I should wear a mask or not.
    Why would you want to wear a mask?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hmm View Post
    Why would you want to wear a mask?
    Well, my dear Hmm, consider what I am doing.

    I am being completely vulnerable in public and at the same time I am protecting myself.

    I normally do this by entering a trance which allows me to be both vulnerable and protected.

    So the first reason I would think of wearing a mask is to provide protection. But a mask would seem to be redundant.

    So perhaps the mask might provide another purpose. Perhaps it is a dramatic purpose to draw attention to myself.

    But I suspect it is to take attention off my naked face.

    Also a mask makes the viewer more comfortable because they are no longer looking at a naked human being.

    So without the mask I am being fully myself in public - and I am a threat to all those who wear the quotidian mask of everyday.

    While with the mask I become another entertainer - and I entertain.

    So it gets down to a choice between ecstasy and entertainment.

    Which would you prefer?

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