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    Quote Originally Posted by raz1337 View Post
    So, for my English class, we have to write a 7-9 page double spaced research paper. At first, I was a little intimidated, but then I started thinking of topics and realized that with all the research I could do, that's really not that much! I was thinking about doing a paper on the Myers-Briggs. The problem is finding the right angle to do it from.

    At first, I was thinking about the influence of it on organizations, but too big? My teacher thought so. Then I thought, a breakdown of the preferences, but still way too big, I think. Someone else suggested focusing on one type. I could do mine, but then I was told again, that I was heading for a 30 page paper. At that point, I was like, ARGH! I met up with an ENFP MBTI certified person at my college, and she kept giving me reasons why I couldn't do a research paper on it.

    I know it's hard, but with it being my latest interest, and the fact that I want to dive head first into it right now, can't I come back out with a research paper on it?

    I was looking at a breakdown of the ISTJ. With 7-9 pages, though, that sounds hard. You could visit every aspect of their life, ranging from family, romance, careers, hobbies, mannerisms, etc. You'd still have the preferences, their impact on the person, each cognitive function, and their relationship. Yeah, that's a lot. I just thought I could generalize it somewhat to smush it into 7-9 pages.

    Am I in over my head or is this doable?
    Why not approach it as a world wide cult with Jung as its fascist guru and Mrs Briggs and her daughter, Mrs Myers, as his disciples.

    You could then ask, who are attracted to cults, and why are they attracted to cults.

    You then might locate MBTI within the New Age religion.

    And you might locate the New Age within the culture of narcissism.

    But most of all you might point out that MBTI is not a valid personality test. And the way it is administered is completely invalid.

    And finally you might interview those who have found their way out of MBTI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    Why not approach it as a world wide cult with Jung as its fascist guru and Mrs Briggs and her daughter, Mrs Myers, as his disciples.

    You could then ask, who are attracted to cults, and why are they attracted to cults.
    I am uncertain as to whether you're joking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Synarch View Post
    I am uncertain as to whether you're joking.
    Speak to any psychometrician with a doctorate from a recognised University, and ask why no qualified psychometricians use MBTI.

    You might also ask about the proper use of a bona fide personality test. And I am sure you would be told it is not to be self administered. And certainly not administered by unqualified people to their friends. And of course it would be absurd to administer it to those you don't even know.

    If you can confirm the above, you might be interested to ask, what is MBTI?

    I would suggest you ask a Sociologist with a doctorate. And I would expect they would tell you it is a popular world wide cult with a guru and followers.

    And I expect the Sociologist would further tell you that MBTI is part of the New Age Movement.

    And I would hope they would tell you that the New Age Movement is based on pseudo-science and superstition. But perhaps they might consider that too much of a value judgement.

    But how bizarre you would think I was joking.

    On the other hand, I am doing the unthinkable - I am speaking truth to power - I am telling the truth about MBTI on a site dedicated to MBTI.

    This opens up a very interesting question about my own psychology - why would I persist in doing this when, of the face it, it's counter productive.

    I don't quite know the answer to this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post

    I don't quite know the answer to this.
    Maybe you got bored with posting atheistic comments on sites devoted to discussing religion and spirituality?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ragashree View Post
    Maybe you got bored with posting atheistic comments on sites devoted to discussing religion and spirituality?
    I have never written to a site discussing religion and spirituality. So I am at a loss to know why you would say I have.

    And as a point of personal explanation - I am an Australian who is a judeo-greek-christian and the son of the humanist renaissance and the Scottish and English Enlightenment.

    I do though offer a point of view about theism and atheism based on a deep understanding of metaphor.

    Perhaps you have mistaken my metaphoric analysis for atheism.

    I do though suspect you accusing me of being a troll.

    It seems an easy judgement to make.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    On the other hand, I am doing the unthinkable - I am speaking truth to power - I am telling the truth about MBTI on a site dedicated to MBTI.
    I think I hurt my eyes from rolling them so hard. Truth to power? Seriously? Sounds like tail-gnawing paranoia to me.

    This opens up a very interesting question about my own psychology - why would I persist in doing this when, of the face it, it's counter productive.

    I don't quite know the answer to this.
    Indeed. Why would you join a community (which you yourself regard as cult-like) and then seek to brand your fellows with the appellation of cult-follower? The psychological dimensions would be interesting if not so obviously and thoroughly conflicted.

    I don't think anyone here views MBTI as anything more than a framework for understanding reality.

    Though I am far too disinterested in your error to take offense, your statements are presumptuous and probably shouldn't be aired in an environment where you know for certain that most people will disagree with you. It's like joining a forum for the Dallas Cowboys and talking about how the Cowboys suck. It's just perverse.

    I can't believe that you really believe in a cult of Jung, so I chalk it up mostly to hyperbole.
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    *Spanks Victor for confusing Synarch.*
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    Um. And derailing the thread?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    I do though suspect you accusing me of being a troll.

    It seems an easy judgement to make.
    Well, I think you know how to prove otherwise.

    Not that I am stupid enough to expect you to be particularly interested in doing so.

    However.

    It's up to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anja View Post
    Um. And derailing the thread?
    I think that is perhaps significant.

    A good reason for not expending too much time and energy on the response.

    Tempting, but counterproductive.

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