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    Default Are you a materialist or a dualist?

    Materialism

    The philosophy of materialism holds that the only thing that can be truly proven to exist is matter, and is considered a form of physicalism. Fundamentally, all things are composed of material and all phenomena (including consciousness) are the result of material interactions; therefore, matter is the only substance.
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    Dualist

    In philosophy of mind, dualism is a set of views about the relationship between mind and matter, which begins with the claim that mental phenomena are, in some respects, non-physical.
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    I'm a materialist. Believing in dualism (and often by extension - souls, spirits, God(s), New Age..) sounds nice, but I know the main arguments in favor of dualism, and none convince me so far or cause me to doubt materialism. The 'subjectivity of mental states' argument is I think the strongest argument for dualism.

    I'd like to what you all think on the subject and where you stand.

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    I believe in Quality.

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    Well, in the words of my professor, "Descartes, damn your hide!"
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    I believe there are things I cannot comprehend, one way or another there is always more than what meets the eye

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatGirl View Post
    I believe there are things I cannot comprehend, one way or another there is always more than what meets the eye
    Alright, but I don't think that really negates materialism. Do you believe these things you can't comprehend are still made of matter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ajblaise View Post
    Alright, but I don't think that really negates materialism. Do you believe these things you can't comprehend are still made of matter?
    I dont believe I contain the knowlegde to conclude something like that.

    People thought the earth was flat, because they didn't know any better. Unless you believe we have somehow maxed out our understanding of what exists in matter form, ....eh I am just not so quick to conclude anything, and like to think there is more than what we know as truth now.


    Whatever that may be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatGirl View Post
    I dont believe I contain the knowlegde to conclude something like that.

    People thought the earth was flat, because they didn't know any better. Unless you believe we have somehow maxed out our understanding of what exists in matter form, ....eh I am just not so quick to conclude anything, and like to think there is more than what we know as truth now.


    Whatever that may be.
    The bolded does not equal materialism.
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    then I cant answer that. I believe there are things I am still unsure of.

    I guess then dualism for me? I guess it is the whole double standered, unless you can prove it does or doesnt exist, I don't make a decision.

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    Neither.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peguy View Post
    Neither.
    Care to explain how your view isn't compatible with either?

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