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    I think materialism is silly. That is all.
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    Dualism states that there are two mutually exclusive kinds of things that make up reality.

    So what dualists need to resolve is this -- how do those separate kinds of things affect each other?

    Dualism traditionally makes the distinction between the physical and the spiritual; they make claims like "the mind and the brain cannot be reduced to one another". Then, I don't understand how one would go about explaining how the connection between mind and brain...

    Basically, dualism is just the opposite of reductionism. Reductionism says that all frames of reference can reduce to each other. So like, you can talk about event A in physics terms, in biology terms, or in human-interaction-level terms, and you are still describing the same thing. Dualism asserts that there is at least one frame of reference that cannot be reduced to others.

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    The spiritual and the material are certainly distinct from each other, but not mutually exclusive. They're connected on so many levels.

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    I can't claim either.

    In my view everything is connected and part of the wheel. Circular.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peguy View Post
    The spiritual and the material are certainly distinct from each other, but not mutually exclusive. They're connected on so many levels.
    They're connected on all levels.......

    The concept of "spirituality" is physically represented in our brains -- how else would we be able to label things as spiritual?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anja View Post
    I can't claim either.

    In my view everything is connected and part of the wheel. Circular.
    "Everything is connected" implies monism (aka not dualism).

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    Quote Originally Posted by dissonance View Post
    They're connected on all levels.......
    Same basic idea.

    Reminds me of how St. Thomas Aquinas noted that divine grace doesn't negate matter but transforms it.

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    I'll check this out, dissonance with some reading of the references.

    Interesting conversation.

    Actualy, to me it matters little in the general flow of things what one believes as long as the individul has reached a contented state of mind.

    Cuz that's the point of successful living, no?
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    Dualism

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peguy View Post
    Same basic idea.

    Reminds me of how St. Thomas Aquinas noted that divine grace doesn't negate matter but transforms it.
    If they're connected on all levels, then you're a monist...

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