The Art of War?

[booyalab]

Offense: You have what I want.
Defense: We will not give you what we have.

Yeah exactly. It's not like anyone wakes up and goes, "I think I'll have a war today." It's a last measure.

 

[Edgar]

Yeah exactly. It's not like anyone wakes up and goes, "I think I'll have a war today."

I do!

 

[booyalab]

You don't count.

 

[Orangey]

I do!

Was it before or after you got out of the Barbie bed?

 

[ThatGirl]

It's great that you believe that - do you think your invading neighbors will share your philosophy?

The application of sentiment on the impact of war does nothing to describe the essential motivations for it.

I do not believe my neighbors share it, only that they should. And, still it surprises me everytime. We are beasts in that we are able to justify that which we cannot comprehend.

 

[Edgar]

You don't count.

[YOUTUBE="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zje1ny0F_js"]ONE MAN, ONE VOTE![/YOUTUBE]

 

[Edgar]

Was it before or after you got out of the Barbie bed?

don't be hatin

 

[ThatsWhatHeSaid]

What is the undelyning philisophical motivation for war?

I doubt men of war are motivated by anything philosophical. I'll take dominance for $1000, Alex.

 

[The_Liquid_Laser]

What is the undelyning philisophical motivation for war?


greed, envy, hate, lust, power? etc etc

It's a combination of fear and lust for power. It's mostly lust for power among people calling the shots and fear among the people who actually have to do the fighting.

 

[swordpath]

do you think your invading neighbors will share your philosophy?

Exactly. War has always been around and has always been an effective method to preserve interests. Is it the best method? Most certainly not. Does it give way to a mass of other problems? Certainly. Since the birth of civilization, people have lived by the sword. I guess its an act of desparation, either an inability to plan a better method or a fear that there isn't one and either party is going to be crushed if they don't act. Act or react if you will because people will always feel entitlement towards something.

 

[Nighthawk]

What is the undelyning philisophical motivation for war?

In not so flippant terms ... testosterone.

When I was a soldier in my teens and 20's, I couldn't wait to practice my craft and test my mettle. I wanted to see if I could hang in combat. I had that opportunity in my late 20's and witnessed the horrors of armed conflict. It gave me cause to re-evaluate my dogmatic belief system. As I have aged and lost testosterone, I have found very few issues worthy of armed conflict. In a nutshell, I grow farther left every day. I honestly think war is often caused by some hyped up penis contest to determine who is the alpha male. Would be interesting to see what would happen if women ran the world.

 

[Edgar]

In not so flippant terms ... testosterone.

When I was a soldier in my teens and 20's, I couldn't wait to practice my craft and test my mettle. I wanted to see if I could hang in combat. I had that opportunity in my late 20's and witnessed the horrors of armed conflict. It gave me cause to re-evaluate my dogmatic belief system. As I have aged and lost testosterone, I have found very few issues worthy of armed conflict. In a nutshell, I grow farther left every day. I honestly think war is often caused by some hyped up penis contest to determine who is the alpha male. Would be interesting to see what would happen if women ran the world.

Same shit. Women can be just as competitive (ruthless) as men. It's just that more often than not men happen to be the world leaders, so we don't see a woman sending an invasion force on an annual basis.

Just flip through some history books. I'm sure you will find some examples of female monarchs causing havoc.

(edit: You don't even have to go that far back -- e.g. Margaret Thatcher and Condi Rice)

 

[Wild horses]

The best way to wage a war is to deny that your in it! lol

 

[Edgar]

The best way to wage a war is to deny that your in it! lol

Admit nothing, deny everything, and make counter accusations.

 

[Nighthawk]

Same shit. Women can be just as competitive (ruthless) as men. It's just that more often than not men happen to be the world leaders, so we don't see a woman sending an invasion force on an annual basis.

Just flip through some history books. I'm sure you will find some examples of female monarchs causing havoc.

(edit: You don't even have to go that far back -- e.g. Margaret Thatcher and Condi Rice)

yes ... I can see it ... so much for my testosterone theory ... however I did see a LOT of macho male posturing in the war zone. The female soldiers were a bit more rational ... albeit I did see one female cobra helicopter platoon leader who was surgically deadly and ruthless in her application of violence to achieve objectives. Could have been a T though.

 

[Edgar]

yes ... I can see it ... so much for my testosterone theory ... however I did see a LOT of macho male posturing in the war zone. The female soldiers were a bit more rational ... albeit I did see one female cobra helicopter platoon leader who was surgically deadly and ruthless in her application of violence to achieve objectives. Could have been a T though.

Well, more often than not, a woman cannot match male machismo, so in the company of gung ho young warriors she is most likely to keep a lower profile, even if she is normally assertive.

Under the proper circumstances, women make effective fighters - Soviets used female snipers with great success during WW2. Israel uses females in IDF, although they keep them away from infantry because male soldiers tend to make irrational decisions in protecting female soldiers on the battlefield (due to instincts), therefore making female/male infantry mix ineffective.

 

[Wild horses]

A recent study was conducted in Texas university I believe, showing that estrogen has the same effect on competitiveness in women that testrogen has in men...

 

[swordpath]

Have you witnessed a girl fight? Shit's brutal.

 

[Edgar]

Have you witnessed a girl fight? Shit's brutal.

Women gangs prefer the use of a knife or a blade over a firearm.

If you ask me, stabbing somebody takes more "heart" than shooting them.

 

[Wild horses]

^^ But less head! Knife crimes are more likely to be crimes of passion, that's just my thoughts. I think when women attack it's likely to be an outburst men seem more cold (Just my thoughts)