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    Quote Originally Posted by Wild horses View Post
    But you're not allowed to, there must be no harmony between NT and NF given the present climate on the forum and the fact that we are posting this sweet little discourse on a thread entitled "The Art of War" is not gonna go down favourably. What is our angle gonna be Nighthawk, The art of war is 'Hearing' eachother?! COme on I'll get my story straight and you get yours
    Ah yes ... derailing is one of the unfortunate byproducts of my existence. As for harmony ... I'll pretty much always have that with NFs. Just a factor of my inferior Fe finally coming out after all these years.

    Now back to warfighting!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nighthawk View Post
    In not so flippant terms ... testosterone.

    When I was a soldier in my teens and 20's, I couldn't wait to practice my craft and test my mettle. I wanted to see if I could hang in combat. I had that opportunity in my late 20's and witnessed the horrors of armed conflict. It gave me cause to re-evaluate my dogmatic belief system. As I have aged and lost testosterone, I have found very few issues worthy of armed conflict. In a nutshell, I grow farther left every day. I honestly think war is often caused by some hyped up penis contest to determine who is the alpha male. Would be interesting to see what would happen if women ran the world.
    I've never been in combat myself(army rejected me), but I can sympathise with these sentiments. I myself have re-evaluated my earlier attitudes towards warfare from my teenage years. Now I would say that I'm neither a pacifist nor a war-monger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peguy View Post

    Let's keep some things in mind. A million women served in the Red Army during WWII, and since total Soviet military strength reached a height of 12 million....well do the math. Yet out of that million, only a quarter million were ever trained to actually shoot....so again do the math.
    Not sure what's the point you are tying to make.

    Just because not all women in the Red Army were trained for actual combat, that does not negate the fact that the ones that were trained and participated in combat were effective.

    There was also an issue of limited resources...

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    The Art of War is an absolutely stellar book.

    War is caused for whatever reason seems appropriate. It is good as population control and some good ol' fashioned darwinism. Our species would be much weaker if we never war'd. That's just my input.

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    Von Clausewitz is certainly very good, if heavier reading. Even Machiavelli's Art of War is pretty interesting, at least Book One concerning the relationship between war and politics. He makes a convicing case for citizen soldiers as opposed profession ones.

    I recently obtained an anthology containing excerpts of Antoine Henri de Jomini's Art of War as well.

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    I also recommend Coup d'…tat: A Practical Handbook by Edward N. Luttwak

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatGirl View Post
    What is the undelyning philisophical motivation for war?


    greed, envy, hate, lust, power? etc etc
    Social darwinism. Killed or be killed.
    The fear of poverty turns people into slaves of money.

    "In this Caesar there are many Mariuses"~Sulla

    Conquer your inner demons first before you conquer the world.

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    The art of war is a good art. War and rivalry forces humanity to compete and fuels the struggle for eternal greatness.
    "Where can you flee? What road will you use to escape us? Our horses are swift, our arrows sharp, our swords like thunderbolts, our hearts as hard as the mountains, our soldiers as numerous as the sand. Fortresses will not detain us, nor arms stop us. Your prayers to God will not avail against us. We are not moved by tears nor touched by lamentations."

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