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Old 10-07-2008, 05:20 PM   #31 (permalink)
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a defining characteristic of intelligence is being able to solve problems...

too dry, Gray guy...
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Old 10-07-2008, 05:27 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Yay, look what I've done! You all get to brag and sneer at me at the same time, while seemingly contributing to a discussion!

I admit, it was foolish of me to base the idea of intelligence entirely on IQ from the word "go". However, had I simply said, "Intelligence and patience," I would have had unreliable results. Everyone can say that they are intelligent, but not everyone can say they have a high IQ- not that it matters, ultimately. IQ /= Intelligence. IQ might equal probability of intelligence.

That said, this thread is not a place for bragging. It's an honest discussion regarding the correlation between intelligence and interpersonal patience. Really, all that is required in a reply, in its most basic form, is "Yes, I'm smart. No, I don't have that problem." Granted, a more detailed response would be preferable, but not if it's given to the detriment of anyone else, or this thread. Come on people, saying, "I'm so much smarter than you and I don't have this problem. You're just a jerk," is not helpful. It's at once boastful and belittling.
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Old 10-07-2008, 05:29 PM   #33 (permalink)
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a defining characteristic of intelligence is being able to solve problems...

That is a perfect example of a helpful reply.
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Old 10-07-2008, 05:31 PM   #34 (permalink)
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It's like they say, "It's not about what you say, it's about what you do"
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Old 10-07-2008, 05:37 PM   #35 (permalink)
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It's like they say, "It's not about what you say, it's about what you do"
Well, that's what they said, but what did they do?
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Old 10-07-2008, 05:39 PM   #36 (permalink)
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a defining characteristic of intelligence is being able to solve problems...

But an IQ test is just too specific. There are plenty more situations in life where problem solving is infinitely more complex than an IQ question -- I'd say mechanics utilize more problem solving skills than an IQ test taker, but since a mechanic's forte is not included on the IQ questionnaire, he's perceived as stupid.

Same thing with more abstract forms of problem solving. For example, I can easily understand the logic behind psychological and philosophical theories, but I have a very hard time understanding certain mathematical problems, which exist on IQ tests. So because I'm not mathematically inclined, I will be perceived as stupid, despite the fact that I can use the same kind of thinking in different contexts.
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Yay, look what I've done! You all get to brag and sneer at me at the same time, while seemingly contributing to a discussion!

I admit, it was foolish of me to base the idea of intelligence entirely on IQ from the word "go". However, had I simply said, "Intelligence and patience," I would have had unreliable results. Everyone can say that they are intelligent, but not everyone can say they have a high IQ- not that it matters, ultimately. IQ /= Intelligence. IQ might equal probability of intelligence.

That said, this thread is not a place for bragging. It's an honest discussion regarding the correlation between intelligence and interpersonal patience. Really, all that is required in a reply, in its most basic form, is "Yes, I'm smart. No, I don't have that problem." Granted, a more detailed response would be preferable, but not if it's given to the detriment of anyone else, or this thread. Come on people, saying, "I'm so much smarter than you and I don't have this problem. You're just a jerk," is not helpful. It's at once boastful and belittling.
If it makes you feel better, I did answer to the thread title.
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Yay, look what I've done! You all get to brag and sneer at me at the same time, while seemingly contributing to a discussion!

I admit, it was foolish of me to base the idea of intelligence entirely on IQ from the word "go". However, had I simply said, "Intelligence and patience," I would have had unreliable results. Everyone can say that they are intelligent, but not everyone can say they have a high IQ- not that it matters, ultimately. IQ /= Intelligence. IQ might equal probability of intelligence.

That said, this thread is not a place for bragging. It's an honest discussion regarding the correlation between intelligence and interpersonal patience. Really, all that is required in a reply, in its most basic form, is "Yes, I'm smart. No, I don't have that problem." Granted, a more detailed response would be preferable, but not if it's given to the detriment of anyone else, or this thread. Come on people, saying, "I'm so much smarter than you and I don't have this problem. You're just a jerk," is not helpful. It's at once boastful and belittling.
Thanks for the clarification!!!



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If it makes you feel better, I did answer to the thread title.
You were among the few that actually did respond in a helpful manner. That does make me feel better.
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