IQ and patience.

[CaptainChick]

Is an unpretentious intelligent person an intellectual?

[Jack Flak]

Originally Posted by CaptainChick

There are plenty of retarded "intellectuals".

Fixed.

[CaptainChick]

Originally Posted by Jack Flak

Fixed.

Cute.

[kyuuei]

Originally Posted by dissonance

What does "can be managed" mean? I can manage my impatience enough to survive in society, but it's a horrible curse to have. Even with meds and 5 years of therapy, it's still a giant problem.

Don't gloss over the problem.

He's just frustrated. It IS a problem. He didn't say it was anyone's fault. Yes, in a moral sense, you are responsible for your own feelings of impatience and frustration. I don't think he disagrees. I think he was looking for other people with the same problem, partly for comfort and partly to see if there's a good correlation to MBTI types (which I don't really think there is past N vs S).

I think it's quite valid to make the connection between intelligence and impatience -- those in the top few percentage points genuinely have a hard time slowing themselves down and/or translating their ideas such that people know wtf is being said.

Can be managed is simply that. My ADD, I struggled with when younger, but I hardly notice it effecting me (unless in certain situations which I've acknowledged as problem areas in my life) because of my personal steps taken to manage it. Not to compare ADD to impatience.. but the principle of managing an uncurable problem is there. The extreme amount of impatience he was describing has me to believe that he's taken little measures in lowering the stress in his life from his impatience, finding it easier to just be frustrated with others in the moment instead of the lengthy, annoying process of working within one's self.

Sympathies, comfort, and a correlation in MBTI types are obviously there. But to open a thread and describe things is to open it to all views and, naturally, there are people who are going to try and put what they think into it, whether that connect to what he wants, or otherwise.. even if it isn't exactly what he wanted. You always get more than you originally ask for when it comes to opening a thread. To say that he *just* wanted this or that would be to imply he didn't want all of everyone's views.. Maybe he didn't. But if he didn't, he might have just deleted the threads irrelevent to his cause and solved it entirely.

I never tried to gloss over the problem, or pretend it doesn't exist as one. I get frustrated just the same as others, and I know I have done, before, what he's complaining about. Impatience, with so many things things all the time in everyday life to where he's getting physically tired and irritated over prolonged conversations.. that's something that caught my attention. It seems like his mind is throwing a mental temper tantrum. It's not what he immediately wants, so he gets upset and such. Hence the childish behavior.

Much like kids, if you let your mind run wild it will. You have to discipline it. If you have more mind to control, you have more responsibility to do so even if you don't want it, which is where I DO think intelligence and impatience correlate.. I hope I'm making my point on the matter.

I'm also rather fond of run-on sentences.

Originally Posted by CaptainChick

There are plenty retarded of "intellectuals".

+1.

Originally Posted by dissonance

Yeah...I still am 22.

I hope like hell that this shit gets better.

I had hoped to ask your age, but I found it soon after your previous post. I sort of get the thought in my head of this whole thread relating to an adult cat clinging onto it's childish ways by continuing to knead with their paws well into adulthood.. something they should have grown out of, but seeing as how they're domesticated, never made the jump from cared-for-kitten to prowling-predator. Maybe I'm a bit crazy

Originally Posted by CaptainChick

Is an unpretentious intelligent person an intellectual?

So... Maybe that's why Einstein built that bomb..

[gloomy-optimist]

He'll learn in time. It might take a while, and for some people it takes them their whole life, but eventually people realize that no one's going to fix their problems for them; the world's not going to change the way it works to cater to anyone, so either they finally change their points-of-views, or they remain miserable.
When I think of it that way, it's kind of is easier to just shrug and let it go; I know I have a clarity of mind and self to at least deal with almost anyone in any situation, so if someone doesn't take the advice given, then that's their choice.
A lot of times, those choices aren't so much intellectual in nature; they're stubbornness, self-righteousness, and insecurity. It takes a certain type of advice, learning, and conditioning to overcome these, just like kyuuei said; if they're not in the right mind set, there's really no point in getting upset over it because they're not going to change, until they're themselves emotionally ready.

[Jack Flak]

Originally Posted by kyuuei

So... Maybe that's why Einstein built that bomb..

J. Robert Oppenheimer was head of the Manhattan project which built the devices. Einstein proposed the idea.

[kyuuei]

Originally Posted by Jack Flak

J. Robert Oppenheimer was head of the Manhattan project which built the devices. Einstein proposed the idea.

Maybe I are iz dumb then afterall.. boo. Scratch all my previous posts then.

I was actually making a movie reference.

[Jack Flak]

LOL.

Use quotes then! ENFPs, I swear...

[Evan]

Originally Posted by kyuuei

I had hoped to ask your age, but I found it soon after your previous post. I sort of get the thought in my head of this whole thread relating to an adult cat clinging onto it's childish ways by continuing to knead with their paws well into adulthood.. something they should have grown out of, but seeing as how they're domesticated, never made the jump from cared-for-kitten to prowling-predator. Maybe I'm a bit crazy

Meh. Everyone has some maladaptive trait (especially at 22) that's leftover from childhood. That doesn't mean everyone is childish. This is a real issue that some people still deal with, and just saying "try harder" or "discipline yourself" isn't necessarily helpful to hear. It's not like he hasn't thought of that before.

[Jack Flak]

I would think it doesn't hurt to know it's not the rest of the world which is going to change. And if one's attitude grates on people, and one doesn't like the reception one gets, one may try to adapt to one's surroundings.