MBTI <> Enneagram

[Ms. M]

Originally Posted by warick

I'm an INTJ, and I test equally for 9w1 and 5w6. I feel much more like 5 than a 9, but if you look Here, I fit in somewhere between Level 3 and 4. (This is talking about degrees of 9ness, Level 1 is best, Level 9 is worst)


I am very non-confrontational, I can if I have to, but if I don't I would much rather not. I think I test as a 9 (aka 'Peacemaker') because I want to have peace around me, not because I care about people.

I find your results interesting, because I just got around to taking the Enneagram test, and I tested at 1w9 (8/5) and 5w6 (7/4). The problem is, both the 1 and 5 (ETA - at level 3 for each) sound just like me.....hmmmm......

[Magic Poriferan]

Ermm.. actually, Type 9 INTPs are a common occurrance.
Not as common as type 5, mind you, but still common.

Now, the fact that I'm a type 1 INTP, with a 2 wing no less, is rather strange.

[warick]

Originally Posted by Ms. M

I find your results interesting, because I just got around to taking the Enneagram test, and I tested at 1w9 (8/5) and 5w6 (7/4). The problem is, both the 1 and 5 (ETA - at level 3 for each) sound just like me.....hmmmm......

Wings:

For 5:

The Intense, Cerebral Type: Perceptive, Innovative, Secretive, and Isolated
Basic Fear: Being useless, helpless, or incapable
Basic Desire: To be capable and competent

Those are all pretty good description of INTJ's too. Not all inclusive of INTJ's, or exclusive of other MBTI types, but pretty close.

For 4:

The Sensitive, Introspective type:
Expressive, Dramatic, Self-Absorbed, and Temperamental

Basic Fear: That they have no identity or personal significance
Basic Desire: To find themselves and their significance (to create an
identity)

For 6:

The Committed, Security-Oriented Type:
Engaging, Responsible, Anxious, and Suspicious

Basic Fear: Of being without support and guidance
Basic Desire: To have security and support

Those were the descriptions of the styles themselves, not really how they relate as wings. But neither is a very good description of an INTJ. If anyone disagrees, please correct me. I know I'm no expert, I'm just reading what's in front of me. What's interesting is that for you as a 1 your direction of growth is toward 7, but for you as a 5, 7 is your direction of stress.

[Xander]

Originally Posted by Magic Poriferan

Ermm.. actually, Type 9 INTPs are a common occurrance.
Not as common as type 5, mind you, but still common.

Now, the fact that I'm a type 1 INTP, with a 2 wing no less, is rather strange.

Really?? I've only known one other and he no longer posts (as far as I know anyway cause I rarely go to INTPc anymore).

Now an INTP 1 IS interesting. *pokes Magic Poriferan* Post more. Interested now

[Ms. M]

Originally Posted by warick

Wings:

Those are all pretty good description of INTJ's too. Not all inclusive of INTJ's, or exclusive of other MBTI types, but pretty close.

Those were the descriptions of the styles themselves, not really how they relate as wings. But neither is a very good description of an INTJ. If anyone disagrees, please correct me. I know I'm no expert, I'm just reading what's in front of me. What's interesting is that for you as a 1 your direction of growth is toward 7, but for you as a 5, 7 is your direction of stress.

I'm not sure how I feel about the whole Enneagram process. The questions seemed a bit out there to me. With the MBTI, the answers came to me easily, with the Enneagram it seemed like the questions were more "apples and oranges" variety. I'm a "depending on the situation" kind of girl.

[DaRick]

Originally Posted by Ms. M

I'm not sure how I feel about the whole Enneagram process. The questions seemed a bit out there to me. With the MBTI, the answers came to me easily, with the Enneagram it seemed like the questions were more "apples and oranges" variety. I'm a "depending on the situation" kind of girl.

It really depends on which Enneagram test you take. I have taken one which has allowed me to take the middle-ground with certain questions. I also found the Enneagram tests, for the most part, easier to complete than your typical MBTI test. By the way, I came up as 4w5. I'm not sure whether that's a common type for INTJ's. I suspect that it isn't. INTJ's apparently tend to be 5's more of the time, although I cannot personally confirm this.

[Magic Poriferan]

Originally Posted by Xander

Really?? I've only known one other and he no longer posts (as far as I know anyway cause I rarely go to INTPc anymore).

Now an INTP 1 IS interesting. *pokes Magic Poriferan* Post more. Interested now

I don't go barfing out my opinion unwarranted most of the time.
However, I am embarrassed by how my times I've already sited my combined MBTI and Enneagram types. It's like it's becoming a damn catch-phrase for me.

[Nocap]

IMO, MBTI > Enneagram only because I can Ti it.

A palindrome.

[Magic Poriferan]

ENTPs are frequently type Eights. My guess is that Nocapszy is an Eight.

[PinkPiranha]

So is it possible for me to test as a 2 AND a 7?