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    Though your conscience is in the right place you also have a pragmatic streak and generally aren’t afraid to do your own dirty work! You’re no shrinking violet - but no daredevil either. You generally have little trouble seeing things from another person’s perspective but, at the same time, are no pushover. ‘Everything in moderation – including moderation’ might sum up your approach to life.

    Pretty much

    I responded "agree" with the risk-taking stuff. Interested in seeing how that'd be related to psychopathy.
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    They should factor Primary and Secondary psychopathy into this--lack of empathy and regard for human life vs. lack of concern for social behavior.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nihilogen View Post
    They should factor Primary and Secondary psychopathy into this--lack of empathy and regard for human life vs. lack of concern for social behavior.
    Mmm cheating on your spouse and lying about it (rather than having an open relationship) or not caring about the suffering of animals isn't about social behavior, it actually is real disregard for the feelings of other living things. Stepping on other people? People deserve to be conned? Yeah this is all lack of empathy to varying degrees. If you strongly agree, for example, that stepping on others is ok (rather than moderately agreeing) that pretty much indicates you don't give a fuck who you hurt to get your way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmotini View Post
    Mmm cheating on your spouse and lying about it (rather than having an open relationship) or not caring about the suffering of animals isn't about social behavior, it actually is real disregard for the feelings of other living things.
    Look up "Primary Psychopathy" and "Secondary Psychopathy." They exist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmotini View Post
    Mmm cheating on your spouse and lying about it (rather than having an open relationship) or not caring about the suffering of animals isn't about social behavior, it actually is real disregard for the feelings of other living things. Stepping on other people? People deserve to be conned? Yeah this is all lack of empathy to varying degrees. If you strongly agree, for example, that stepping on others is ok (rather than moderately agreeing) that pretty much indicates you don't give a fuck who you hurt to get your way.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nihilogen View Post
    Look up "Primary Psychopathy" and "Secondary Psychopathy." They exist.
    Nihilogen's right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jscrothers View Post
    YOUR SCORE 42%

    Though your conscience is in the right place you also have a pragmatic streak and generally aren’t afraid to do your own dirty work! You’re no shrinking violet - but no daredevil either. You generally have little trouble seeing things from another person’s perspective but, at the same time, are no pushover. ‘Everything in moderation – including moderation’ might sum up your approach to life.

    Pretty much

    I responded "agree" with the risk-taking stuff. Interested in seeing how that'd be related to psychopathy.
    Psychopaths don't experience normal emotions, their lack of fear and ability to simply not care about things can make them great soldiers for example, but they generally self destruct, I mentioned this earlier, I read an academic article on psychopathy in the military.

    But risk taking can be a strength if it's rational, and factors in the safety of others, for example. Many conditions ranging from bipolar disorder to histrionic personality disorder can involve abnormally risky behavior, standing alone, it's not enough to make you a psychopath. In fact neither is low empathy, narcissists also have low or no empathy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nihilogen View Post
    Look up "Primary Psychopathy" and "Secondary Psychopathy." They exist.
    That's fine but the way you worded it made it sound like you think the empathy questions are about culture, and not about empathy.

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    I looked into the actual handbook of psychopathy, and you do realize that lack of concern for social behavior was a really weird way to word it, like oh secondary psychopaths aren't so bad, they just have casual sex and don't use salad forks....while the primary psychopath inherently lacks normal human emotions "the emotional organization of a subhuman animal" the secondary actually feels guilt and anxiety but still only "occasionally" experiences empathy (like when it's convenient for them? )...i think barring an actual psychiatric diagnosis where the doctor could assess such a thing, low empathy and acting with an apparent disregard for others is still a feature of both.

    Like Hitler sounds more like a secondary.

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    Yeah, all those designations are confusing, to say the least. The DSM V just classifies it all as 'antisocial' PD, which i prefer. I think it separates it from borderline.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AphroditeGoneAwry View Post
    I don't think we need to designate antisocial from borderline from psychopathy. It's all essentially the same.
    Wow, not remotely... a psychopath is akin to a predator stalking prey - a borderline person is equivalent to a wounded animal attacking anything that gets near it out of an intense overload of self-preservation.

    But, an INFJ would try to categorize them all the same:

    Jung on extroverted feeling:

    "What she cannot feel, she cannot consciously think. 'But I can't think what I don't feel', such a type said to me once in indignant tones. As far as feeling permits, she can think very well, but every conclusion, however logical, that might lead to a disturbance of feeling is rejected from the outset. It is simply not thought."

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