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Personal Hell No Escape Lifetrap Test

Lark

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I'm female and my submissiveness, subjugation and self-sacrificing aren't strong.

It may be personality related. As an Fe type, she may find self-sacrifice rewarding.

As a Pe/Fi type, I probably do show a lot less self-control than an SJ...and may require more emotionally from some people than they want to or are capable of giving.

And yes, you could re-take the test in a more positive or negative, tired or lively, mood and probably have slightly different responses.

As a political or philosophical precept I would support some ideas about sacrifice as duty but I'm not compulsive about it and I know that I think rationally that reciprocity is more important.
 

Lark

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Some of these can be channeled into productive or positive directions; it's just bad when you internalize things you have to be like, because you're constantly measuring yourself against things and not valuing yourself as you are. The defective thing is just that you have gotten the unconscious message that you are defective so you believe it when you don't measure up to unrelenting standards.

I actually don't think I'm pessimistic; I'm very optimistic in general; it's only in relationships.

Well like I said I subscribe to the insane society idea, so the traits, negatively defined, which I got are actually close reflections of what I think the contemporary social character is or demands, it means I'm well adjusted but adjusted to something which objectively I'd say is not ideal.
 

Lark

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Actually you don't see those things as being as bad because of your own personality. I see having unrelenting standards as insane and inflexible, which is why it's weak for me. Also, entitlement being "very strong" instead of strong or medium could point to a kind of narcissism.

I think people get "defective" if they answer that they sometimes feel like they don't belong, or that other people are their better in some manner.

I also think some people self-examine more closely than others, and it's easier to admit their flaws, or maybe answer "sometimes" to certain questions (quite honestly) even if the trait isn't a real problem for them in their life.

I'm not surprised by your answers.

Scientific proof of my awesomeness.
 

Such Irony

Honor Thy Inferior
Joined
Jul 23, 2010
Messages
5,059
MBTI Type
INtp
Enneagram
5w6
Instinctual Variant
sp/so
I'm more screwed up than I thought.

Lifetrap Strength
Subjugation strong
Approval seeking strong
Pessimism strong
Emotional inhibation strong
Failure medium
Sosial isolation medium
Defectiveness medium
Self-sacrifice medium
Punitiveness medium
Abuse medium
Vulnerablity medium
Enmeshment weak
Unrelenting standards weak
Emotional deprivation weak
Entitlement weak
Abandonment weak
Insufficient self-control weak
Dependence no lifetrap
 

Vasilisa

Symbolic Herald
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Feb 2, 2010
Messages
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Instinctual Variant
so/sx
Lifetrap - Strength
Sosial isolation - very strong
Subjugation - strong
Punitiveness - strong
Approval seeking - strong
Defectiveness - strong
Failure - strong
Dependence - strong
Self-sacrifice - strong
Pessimism - strong
Abuse - medium
Emotional inhibation - medium
Enmeshment - medium
Emotional deprivation - weak
Unrelenting standards - weak
Vulnerablity - weak
Entitlement - weak
Abandonment - no lifetrap
Insufficient self-control - no lifetrap
 

Aquarelle

Starcrossed Seafarer
Joined
Jun 16, 2010
Messages
3,144
MBTI Type
INFJ
Enneagram
4w5
Instinctual Variant
so/sp
lifetrap Strength
Social isolation very strong
Subjugation strong
Vulnerablity medium
Approval seeking medium
Emotional inhibation medium
Self-sacrifice medium
Emotional deprivation medium
Entitlement medium
Failure medium
Dependence medium
Punitiveness weak
Insufficient self-control weak
Abuse weak
Unrelenting standards weak
Abandonment weak
Enmeshment no lifetrap
Pessimism no lifetrap
Defectiveness no lifetrap
 

Eckhart

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Jan 6, 2010
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MBTI Type
INFP
Enneagram
???
strong
Abuse
Sosial isolation
Enmeshment
Emotional inhibation
Self-sacrifice
Emotional deprivation

medium
Subjugation
Punitiveness
Pessimism
Entitlement
Abandonment

weak
Dependence
Insufficient self-control
Approval seeking
Failure
Unrelenting standards
Vulnerablity

no lifetrap
Defectiveness
 

Standuble

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Punitiveness very strong
Sosial isolation strong
Emotional deprivation strong
Defectiveness strong
Emotional inhibation strong
Failure strong
Pessimism strong
Enmeshment strong
Dependence strong
Self-sacrifice strong
Subjugation medium
Entitlement medium
Abandonment medium
Unrelenting standards medium
Abuse medium
Approval seeking medium
Vulnerablity medium
Insufficient self-control medium

I'm screwed up. Should I cheer or cry at the results?
 

pinkgraffiti

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Joined
Mar 20, 2011
Messages
1,482
MBTI Type
ENFP
Enneagram
748
Instinctual Variant
sx/so
i wonder if this is enneagram/mbti specific. im enfp 7w8 sx/sp, tritype 748. here are mine:

Unrelenting standards very strong
Insufficient self-control very strong
Emotional deprivation very strong


Self-sacrifice strong
Subjugation strong
Entitlement strong
Abuse strong
Pessimism strong

Dependence medium
Enmeshment medium
Punitiveness medium
Approval seeking medium

Failure weak
Sosial isolation weak
Abandonment weak

Defectiveness no lifetrap
Vulnerablity no lifetrap
Emotional inhibation no lifetrap

Edit: where are the other ENFP's? :(
 

Siúil a Rúin

when the colors fade
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Apr 23, 2007
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MBTI Type
ISFP
Enneagram
496
Instinctual Variant
sp/sx
I probably used too high of numbers for the strengths, and socially they mostly refer to those important to me, although somewhat to people in general. It is kinda INFish overall, though.

Approval seeking very strong
Subjugation very strong
Self-sacrifice very strong
Sosial isolation very strong

Unrelenting standards strong
Abandonment strong
Abuse strong
Punitiveness strong
Defectiveness strong
Vulnerablity strong
Emotional inhibation strong
Pessimism strong
Emotional deprivation medium
Enmeshment medium
Dependence weak
Entitlement no lifetrap
Insufficient self-control no lifetrap
Failure no lifetrap
 

OrangeAppled

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MBTI Type
INFP
Enneagram
4w5
Instinctual Variant
sp/sx
Your lifetraps

Lifetrap - Strength

Social isolation - very strong
Defectiveness - very strong
Pessimism - strong
Emotional deprivation - strong

Insufficient self-control weak
Self-sacrifice weak
Subjugation weak
Punitiveness weak
Abandonment weak
Dependence weak
Enmeshment weak
Approval seeking no lifetrap
Failure no lifetrap
Emotional inhibation no lifetrap
Unrelenting standards no lifetrap
Vulnerablity no lifetrap
Abuse no lifetrap
Entitlement no lifetrap
 

SD45T-2

Senior Jr.
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Feb 18, 2012
Messages
4,235
MBTI Type
ESTJ
Enneagram
1w2
Instinctual Variant
so/sp
Lifetrap Strength

Pessimism very strong

Emotional inhibation very strong

Failure very strong

Defectiveness very strong

Unrelenting standards very strong

Self-sacrifice strong

Sosial isolation strong

Punitiveness strong

Enmeshment strong

Vulnerablity medium

Subjugation medium

Approval seeking medium

Abuse medium

Entitlement medium

Dependence medium

Emotional deprivation medium

Insufficient self-control weak

Abandonment weak
 

gmanyo

sswwwaagggg
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Jun 8, 2010
Messages
275
MBTI Type
ENTP
Very strong
Punitiveness
Pessimism
Dependence (lol, my parents live in another country)

Strong
Insufficient self control
Approval seeking
Enmeshment (my counselor and I talk about this, although we call it fusion)
Emotional inhibition
Defectiveness

Medium
Unrelenting Standards
Self-sacrifice (I don't believe high scores on this most of the time)
Abandonment
Failure
Social isolation
Subjugation
Vulnerability
Entitlement (although I read one question wrong, probably weak)

Weak
Abuse
Emotional Deprivation


Bipolar disorder doesn't help with all of this stuff, although my results seem a bit borderline lol. I don't like some of these questions, because people are always wont to think that they have trouble standing up for their rights, or that they are self sacrificing, when really they aren't. It's like the Ne questions on cog functions tests "I see the world as a bunch of possibilities waiting to be unravelled". Honestly, the people who should answer that question the highest are gonna be the ones who understand that they really don't view it that way.
 

skylights

i love
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Messages
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MBTI Type
INFP
Enneagram
6w7
Instinctual Variant
so/sx
Very Strong
Approval seeking

Strong
Subjugation
Pessimism
Dependence

Eh, no surprises there. The sx 6 is strong in me. It's challenging to me when the people I love push me to make my own decisions. You'd think it'd become easy upon being encouraged to choose for myself, but it almost feels like they're leaving me high and dry, with no pertinent information to base my decision on - because of course they still have preferences for the outcome. Part of me feels some degree of pride that I prioritize others, though - I like that my worldview is imbued with caring for others. I just need to get better at caring for myself, too. Most of the time I have no idea what I want, and that puts undue burden on others for deciding for me.

I think my lifetraps are mainly rooted in having lived my early childhood as a medical patient, where doing a good job living up to doctors' orders meant I got to keep being alive. Pessimism was a logical reaction to that world, which was unpredictable and uncontrollable. Fortunately, I am out of that world now - unfortunately, I still think like I am!

As for the spelling errors, the test is Finnish. As an anglophone having lived in Finland, I'd like to vouch for how incredibly fluent in English the majority of people there are. I would suggest forgiving the spelling errors. They are doing quite well overall.
 

miss fortune

not to be trusted
Joined
Oct 4, 2007
Messages
20,589
Enneagram
827
Instinctual Variant
sp/so
Unrelenting standards very strong
Emotional inhibition strong
Social isolation strong
Self-sacrifice strong
Punitiveness strong

Insufficient self-control medium
Abuse medium
Entitlement medium

Subjugation no lifetrap
Enmeshment no lifetrap
Approval seeking no lifetrap
Pessimism no lifetrap
Failure no lifetrap
Dependence no lifetrap
Vulnerability no lifetrap
Defectiveness no lifetrap
Abandonment no lifetrap
Emotional deprivation no lifetrap
 

Il Morto Che Parla

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xxTP
Did you even take the test? By many people's estimations, I also had "a good childhood."

Then be grateful and stop moaning so much! :=P

No I didn't take the test, why would I want to depress myself by having some unqualified online amateur shrink telling me some made up symptoms he has no qualifications to diagnose, based on some unscientific test?
 

Thalassa

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sx
Then be grateful and stop moaning so much! :=P

No I didn't take the test, why would I want to depress myself by having some unqualified online amateur shrink telling me some made up symptoms he has no qualifications to diagnose, based on some unscientific test?

It's not depressing. It just points out learned behaviors that human beings carry to one another. A lot of the function of modern psychotherapy seems to break patterns that really have nothing to do with severe abuse or mental illness, but to teach people to live with themselves and each other with more love and acceptance.

I was joking in the OP about being a nutcase, I don't take the test that seriously, but I also think there's a validity to less-than-optimum behavioral patterns being passed in families, or being impressed upon someone because of their personality type, it didn't fit in with the parents ideas of "best" or something.

Anyway, "good childhood" is subjective, is my point. I had a better childhood than a lot of people, and by totally external standards (lack of beatings, regular meal times, eating dinner with the entire family, nice clothes, extracurricular activities, gifts, friends, even being educated at home as well as school, knowing my extended family) I pretty much had almost an ideal childhood...except for all of that other weird mentally and emotionally dysfunctional stuff that happened on a regular basis.

And that stuff happens in many, if not most, families on SOME level.
 
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