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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmotini View Post
    I'm female and my submissiveness, subjugation and self-sacrificing aren't strong.

    It may be personality related. As an Fe type, she may find self-sacrifice rewarding.

    As a Pe/Fi type, I probably do show a lot less self-control than an SJ...and may require more emotionally from some people than they want to or are capable of giving.

    And yes, you could re-take the test in a more positive or negative, tired or lively, mood and probably have slightly different responses.
    As a political or philosophical precept I would support some ideas about sacrifice as duty but I'm not compulsive about it and I know that I think rationally that reciprocity is more important.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenfairy View Post
    Some of these can be channeled into productive or positive directions; it's just bad when you internalize things you have to be like, because you're constantly measuring yourself against things and not valuing yourself as you are. The defective thing is just that you have gotten the unconscious message that you are defective so you believe it when you don't measure up to unrelenting standards.

    I actually don't think I'm pessimistic; I'm very optimistic in general; it's only in relationships.
    Well like I said I subscribe to the insane society idea, so the traits, negatively defined, which I got are actually close reflections of what I think the contemporary social character is or demands, it means I'm well adjusted but adjusted to something which objectively I'd say is not ideal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmotini View Post
    Actually you don't see those things as being as bad because of your own personality. I see having unrelenting standards as insane and inflexible, which is why it's weak for me. Also, entitlement being "very strong" instead of strong or medium could point to a kind of narcissism.

    I think people get "defective" if they answer that they sometimes feel like they don't belong, or that other people are their better in some manner.

    I also think some people self-examine more closely than others, and it's easier to admit their flaws, or maybe answer "sometimes" to certain questions (quite honestly) even if the trait isn't a real problem for them in their life.

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    I'm more screwed up than I thought.

    Lifetrap Strength
    Subjugation strong
    Approval seeking strong
    Pessimism strong
    Emotional inhibation strong
    Failure medium
    Sosial isolation medium
    Defectiveness medium
    Self-sacrifice medium
    Punitiveness medium
    Abuse medium
    Vulnerablity medium
    Enmeshment weak
    Unrelenting standards weak
    Emotional deprivation weak
    Entitlement weak
    Abandonment weak
    Insufficient self-control weak
    Dependence no lifetrap
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    5w6 or 9w1 sp/so/sx, I think
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    Lifetrap - Strength
    Sosial isolation - very strong
    Subjugation - strong
    Punitiveness - strong
    Approval seeking - strong
    Defectiveness - strong
    Failure - strong
    Dependence - strong
    Self-sacrifice - strong
    Pessimism - strong
    Abuse - medium
    Emotional inhibation - medium
    Enmeshment - medium
    Emotional deprivation - weak
    Unrelenting standards - weak
    Vulnerablity - weak
    Entitlement - weak
    Abandonment - no lifetrap
    Insufficient self-control - no lifetrap
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    lifetrap Strength
    Social isolation very strong
    Subjugation strong
    Vulnerablity medium
    Approval seeking medium
    Emotional inhibation medium
    Self-sacrifice medium
    Emotional deprivation medium
    Entitlement medium
    Failure medium
    Dependence medium
    Punitiveness weak
    Insufficient self-control weak
    Abuse weak
    Unrelenting standards weak
    Abandonment weak
    Enmeshment no lifetrap
    Pessimism no lifetrap
    Defectiveness no lifetrap
    Masquerading as a normal person day after day is exhausting.

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    strong
    Abuse
    Sosial isolation
    Enmeshment
    Emotional inhibation
    Self-sacrifice
    Emotional deprivation

    medium
    Subjugation
    Punitiveness
    Pessimism
    Entitlement
    Abandonment

    weak
    Dependence
    Insufficient self-control
    Approval seeking
    Failure
    Unrelenting standards
    Vulnerablity

    no lifetrap
    Defectiveness

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    Punitiveness very strong
    Sosial isolation strong
    Emotional deprivation strong
    Defectiveness strong
    Emotional inhibation strong
    Failure strong
    Pessimism strong
    Enmeshment strong
    Dependence strong
    Self-sacrifice strong
    Subjugation medium
    Entitlement medium
    Abandonment medium
    Unrelenting standards medium
    Abuse medium
    Approval seeking medium
    Vulnerablity medium
    Insufficient self-control medium

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    i wonder if this is enneagram/mbti specific. im enfp 7w8 sx/sp, tritype 748. here are mine:

    Unrelenting standards very strong
    Insufficient self-control very strong
    Emotional deprivation very strong


    Self-sacrifice strong
    Subjugation strong
    Entitlement strong
    Abuse strong
    Pessimism strong

    Dependence medium
    Enmeshment medium
    Punitiveness medium
    Approval seeking medium

    Failure weak
    Sosial isolation weak
    Abandonment weak

    Defectiveness no lifetrap
    Vulnerablity no lifetrap
    Emotional inhibation no lifetrap

    Edit: where are the other ENFP's?

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