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    Quote Originally Posted by Noon View Post
    It's consistent with the Fi-Si tango I get on every functional test. But since the orders aren't going to line up perfectly for everyone, it would be really cool if you created some questions from the perspective of the inferior, or posted descriptions of the functions in pairs (FiSe Fi seems to be slightly different from FiNe Fi, for instance).
    I have thought of doing tandem functions, but the main 2 issues are a) Sometimes 2 sets of function pairs can give very similar results and b) It would be difficult or impossible to accurately gauge what level of importance to give each choice since there is already a different answer layout here. For example, how much is an FiNe function pair worth in comparison to an Fi or Ne question? It's sketchy science, especially since I can only change them by whole numbers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noon View Post
    It's consistent with the Fi-Si tango I get on every functional test. But since the orders aren't going to line up perfectly for everyone, it would be really cool if you created some questions from the perspective of the inferior, or posted descriptions of the functions in pairs (FiSe Fi seems to be slightly different from FiNe Fi, for instance).
    I have thought of doing tandem functions, but the main 2 issues are a) Sometimes 2 sets of function pairs can give very similar results and b) It would be difficult or impossible to accurately gauge what level of importance to give each choice since there is already a different answer layout here. For example, how much is an FiNe function pair worth in comparison to an Fi or Ne question? It's sketchy science, especially since I can only change them by whole numbers.
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    "It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts."

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    Te-Ni is deductive and does theorise.

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    Oh okay I did not look into the Ti Te descriptions
    Thank you for your help

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metaphor View Post
    Te-Ni is deductive and does theorise.
    Well that's one of the difficult aspects of it, because of the way tandem functions can appear as other individual functions. However, by the definitions I have learnt, Te-Ni is more focused on using organised thinking and creative solutions to reach a goal, as opposed to Ti, which is more about simply understanding logical principles and systems, and Ne, which just imagines freely and loosely on the possibilities. Do you have any suggestions for what I could change it to that would NOT crossover strongly with Ni-Te? I'm realy surprised as my Ti questions are I think at least as specific to the function as the ones on the normal test, which you scored higher Te and lower Ti on.
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    edit: Hm, never mind. What I'm thinking about is irrelevant to the goal of the test.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Sherlock Holmes View Post
    Well that's one of the difficult aspects of it, because of the way tandem functions can appear as other individual functions. However, by the definitions I have learnt, Te-Ni is more focused on using organised thinking and creative solutions to reach a goal, as opposed to Ti, which is more about simply understanding logical principles and systems, and Ne, which just imagines freely and loosely on the possibilities. Do you have any suggestions for what I could change it to that would NOT crossover strongly with Ni-Te? I'm realy surprised as my Ti questions are I think at least as specific to the function as the ones on the normal test, which you scored higher Te and lower Ti on.
    Unfortunately, I don't have the expertise with specific cognitive processes to differentiate between them, to the degree necessary for a valid test. And maybe I'm not the best person to help, since my function order is kind of strange where the main processes appear to have some serious shadow resonances.

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    INTP
    Ti>Ne>Si>Fe

    You are most likely an INTP. Okay, this is your result. Your functions are listed below.



    Te: 11

    Fe:10

    Ti: 14

    Fi:10

    Se:7

    Ne:13

    Si:8

    Ni:12
    Your Analysis (Vertical line = Average)


    You scored 11% on Te, higher than 84% of your peers.


    You scored 10% on Fe, higher than 49% of your peers.


    You scored 14% on Ti, higher than 83% of your peers.


    You scored 10% on Fi, higher than 49% of your peers.


    You scored 7% on Se, higher than 59% of your peers.


    You scored 13% on Ne, higher than 83% of your peers.


    You scored 8% on Si, higher than 45% of your peers.


    You scored 12% on Ni, higher than 48% of your peers.
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    INTP
    Ti>Ne>Si>Fe

    You are most likely an INTP. Okay, this is your result. Your functions are listed below.


    Te: 4

    Fe:7

    Ti: 13

    Fi:1

    Se:9

    Ne:12

    Si:3

    Ni:11

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    Actually the results confirm what I have been pondering for a while. While I consistently test INTP on personality tests, I actually suspect I am an ISTP with a better developed Ni than a typical ISTP. And as the test shows, I have a significantly higher Se than Si.

    What I am wondering about is the role of Ne (or any other variable for that matter) for a personality type that does not typically preference it. I've been reading about shadow functions, but I can't find any literature that clarifies well their roles other than as an unsolved mystery or something negative.

    But assuming your scoring system is sound, I suppose this just goes to show that MBTI is kind of an arbitrary system based on statistical averages of people, and exceptions are bound to happen.

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