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    One of the main problems appears to be that I commented out some essential lines of code last night when I only intended to comment out some debugging code. I have now fixed that. Hopefully, things are all better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    I just read the INTP description written by Terence. I actually like it and agree with it... except I find it interesting to see the INFJ spin at the end about "love" being the highest truth possible:



    That's a value statement, not a truth statement; and I'm thinking some INTPs would bristle at what has been said here and disagree with the value being asserted here.

    Whether or not I happen to agree with it as a personal value of my own, I find it interesting how our type impacts our assessment of what other types are supposed to be. Even descriptions possess some level of bias.
    Yes, one of my reservations about using my father's type descriptions is that they all end with his advice on what that type needs for spiritual growth. In my own case, I think love has made a difference, but I do understand that the advice on spiritual growth might come off as heavy-handed. In the context of the book he wrote them for, which concerned using type for spiritual growth, they may be appropriate, but in the context of providing descriptions to people who have just finished an online test, they might be off-putting to some. What I do like about them is that they are short enough to read quickly, and maybe some people will benefit from the advice he gives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cascadeco View Post
    With this particular test, due to the big number of XXXP and XXXJ results, there seems to be dissonance between dichotomy interpretation and the supposed tie with cog functions. Whether it's the questions being asked, the weight, or the ties between questions and type, in the code... I dunno.
    I am confident all the XXXP and XXXJ results were due to some essential lines of code being commented out. The lines I uncommented created and sorted the array used by the main routine for resolving conflicting scores.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquarelle99 View Post
    Is the reason the test doesn't work right maybe because it's trying to reconcile cognitive processes with MBTI? I'm pretty sure from MBTI and from reading all the descriptions I've ever seen that I'm INFJ, but when I take the cognitive processes test my results don't align with INFj so it is contradictory. Could that be what's going on here?
    No, what was going on was buggy code. It was entirely a software problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Polaris View Post
    It's odd how you managed to get INTJ with those cognitive processes. I wonder if there's more to the scoring system than meets the eye. Maybe the number next to a cognitive process and how that number compares to the rest isn't a direct indication of your cognitive function use. There might be more questions for some functions than others, for example, and hence a higher likelihood of getting strong scores for those.

    I don't know. Would you care to enlighten us, fduniho?
    The cognitive processes Bologna scored highest in are all in line with being an INTJ. So the program just noted that all scores were consistent with a single type and made no attempt to resolve conflicts.

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    Your scores are not in full agreement regarding your type. PJ: XXXP = 3.875000, XXXJ = 0.000000BR>TF: XXTP = 5.775000, XXTJ = 1.900000BR>FeTe: XXTP = 7.508333, XXTJ = 1.900000BR>SeNe: XNTP = 9.144697, XSTJ = 3.536364BR>IE: ENTP = 10.144697, ESTJ = 4.536364BR>NS: ENTP = 10.144697, ESTJ = 5.183422BR>RA: ENTP = 10.417424, ESTJ = 5.183422BR>Using a decision procedure that ranks the relative strength of your preferences, the best estimate of your type is ENTP.

    ENTP 10, ESTJ 5
    Here are your more detailed results, preference by preference.

    Introversion: 12 / 11
    Extraversion: 23 / 11

    Intuition: 22 / 17
    Sensing: 33 / 17

    Thinking: 50 / 20
    Feeling: 12 / 20

    Perceiving: 62 / 16
    Judging: 0 / 16

    Dominant Judger: 18 / 11
    Dominant Perceiver: 21 / 11

    Introverted Sensing: 9 / 6
    Extraverted Sensing: 9 / 6

    Introverted Intuition: 0 / 5
    Extraverted Intuition: 18 / 5

    Introverted Thinking: 9 / 5
    Extraverted Thinking: 5 / 5

    Introverted Feeling: 2 / 10
    Extraverted Feeling: 24 / 10


    Opposing preferences are paired together. The numeric scores give the raw score divided by the number of questions answered for each pair. The preferences you scored higher on are in boldface, and the preferences matching the type you scored as are underlined. Green bars indicate preferences in alignment with your estimated type. Red bars indicate non-preferences that do not match your estimated type. Blue bars indicate a conflict between your preferences and your estimated type. The length of each bar represents the relative strength of each preference.

    how are these results supposed to make any sense? my scores say ESTP, my S beat out my N and yet the damned thing accused me of being an ENTP
    “Oh, we're always alright. You remember that. We happen to other people.” -Terry Pratchett

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    Quote Originally Posted by nolla View Post
    I don't understand why there's two sets of results... Or what the second numbers mean.
    What you're looking at are fractions. The / is a division sign. Each score is given as the raw score divided by the number of questions answered. This compensates for there being different numbers of questions for different sets of preferences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whatever View Post
    Your scores are not in full agreement regarding your type. PJ: XXXP = 3.875000, XXXJ = 0.000000BR>TF: XXTP = 5.775000, XXTJ = 1.900000BR>FeTe: XXTP = 7.508333, XXTJ = 1.900000BR>SeNe: XNTP = 9.144697, XSTJ = 3.536364BR>IE: ENTP = 10.144697, ESTJ = 4.536364BR>NS: ENTP = 10.144697, ESTJ = 5.183422BR>RA: ENTP = 10.417424, ESTJ = 5.183422BR>Using a decision procedure that ranks the relative strength of your preferences, the best estimate of your type is ENTP.

    ENTP 10, ESTJ 5
    There were a couple more lines of debugging code I needed to remove. You should now be able to view your results without the extraneous data showing up here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whatever View Post
    how are these results supposed to make any sense? my scores say ESTP, my S beat out my N and yet the damned thing accused me of being an ENTP
    Your scores for extraverted intuition vs. introverted intuition were the deciding factor. There was a bigger difference between these scores than between your S and N scores.

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    According to this, I should be, er, an INTP. Or, their second choice was ENFJ. I am too much of a badass to be an INFP. Maybe this has some validity? Perhaps I should have y'all retype me.

    Ambivert!
    Introversion: 16 / 11, Extraversion: 16 / 11

    Intuitive as hell
    Intuition: 62 / 11, Sensing: 0 / 16

    I like big feelings, and I cannot lie. But I also really like big thinkings.
    Thinking: 26 / 11, Feeling: 35 / 19

    Say wha?! I am not a Judger. I demand a recount!
    Perceiving: 25 / 11, Judging: 29 / 16
    Dominant Judger: 28 / 11, Dominant Perceiver: 8 / 11

    I do not know what the hell is going on around me. Ever.
    Introverted Sensing: 17 / 6, Extraverted Sensing: 4 / 6

    INxJ tendencies
    Introverted Intuition: 12 / 5, Extraverted Intuition: 8 / 5

    I just like science. Which one is that?
    Introverted Thinking: 8 / 5, Extraverted Thinking: 9 / 5

    According to this, I fail at being an INFP.
    Introverted Feeling: 13 / 11, Extraverted Feeling: 26 / 11
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