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    Quote Originally Posted by Economica View Post
    Expound, please!

    (Not that I disagree, just want to hear your take. )
    Oh, just the concept of lazy people, stupid people getting caught/criminal and so forth (from this test). It's overly generalised (ie: "most", "in general") which is very difficult to state positively. Most people aren't "brave", but... almost everyone has things they will be brave over. Stuff like that.

    Also, I strongly pity someone who wants to be pragmatic but then writes rules and generalises them. The only reason he did is because he failed. He wasn't competent enough to achieve his own goals, and the rules he wrote were simply a poor attempt to regain favor. He doesn't distill true power (cutting corners? Are you kidding me? Try cutting corners in high stakes, see how far that'll get you) in his books at all.

    Good for giving advice on how to run a country (he obviously understood that well), but awful for individuals looking to gain power. He doesn't understand people - he understands groups.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptgatsby View Post
    Oh, just the concept of lazy people, stupid people getting caught/criminal and so forth (from this test). It's overly generalised (ie: "most", "in general") which is very difficult to state positively. Most people aren't "brave", but... almost everyone has things they will be brave over. Stuff like that.
    This might be a stupid question but would you have gotten a lower or a higher score if he had had a better understanding of these things?

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    57.

    My conscience is far too sensitive to score high on those Machiavellian quizzes.

    Or perhaps I'm just more trusting of people in general and have faith in myself that I can deal with the unforeseen negative consequences.
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    93, with all questions answered honestly.

    However, I tend to vote in the extremes or in the middle. With the 5 choices (1 being lowest, 3 being apathetic, and 5 being highest), I see very little purpose for bubbles 2 and 4.

    I tend to think of myself as maliciously compliant in most situations. I only break the rules if I think I can get away with it or (and this is more likely) if I can rationalize it somehow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Economica View Post
    This might be a stupid question but would you have gotten a lower or a higher score if he had had a better understanding of these things?
    Higher, probably, since that'd just be adjusting his views to mine. But in terms of pragmatism, he would of been higher too if he hadn't been blinded by his cleverness. Should of applied the same approach to individuals that he did to groups.

    It's a typical case of "Mercenaries can be bought" and ignoring that the mercenary in the room might of been paid to kill you, or not understanding people don't like being told they are cowards (especially mercenaries), or underestimating that criminal. Understanding of how chess pieces interact on the board, but not understanding the chess pieces themselves (that is, of course, if the chess pieces were alive.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Economica View Post
    Just out of curiosity, did you detest me before you found out my score or did you start just now?
    I didn't like you before, either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    I didn't like you before, either.
    Why not? (I have an idea, but I'd like to hear your take.)

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    I like internet forums where you can improvise popcorn-eating on the spot.

    65/100.
    Not really.

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    63/High Mach

    Most my answers were 3s, a few a point above or below and one 5.

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    65
    In no likes experiment.

    that is all

    i dunno what else to say so

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