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    Ideal you: ENTJ
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    I am happy with most aspects of my personality, I just want to be less shy and anxious around other people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by entropie View Post
    Are you someone, if you are a world class doctor ?
    I don't understand your question, and it gets away from the main point of this. What I am trying to say is absolutely everyone should try and be who they want to be, but recognize when they get away from the core of who they are and are outside of the realm of who they can be. This goes for external things, and internal personalites.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hard View Post
    I don't understand your question.
    Then take your time and think about it. And call me back, when you found out what I am saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hard View Post
    I don't understand your question, and it gets away from the main point of this. What I am trying to say is absolutely everyone should try and be who they want to be, but recognize when they get away from the core of who they are and are outside of the realm of who they can be. This goes for external things, and internal personalites.
    He's saying things like careers and titles don't define a person, so it's not really a limitation on who you are....maybe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forever_Jung View Post
    He's saying things like careers and titles don't define a person, so it's not really a limitation on who you are....maybe.
    That's fair, but as I said elsewhere in the reply, there are still limits beyond that. I've tried to push myself around in multiple ways to be who I ideally want to be, and while I have come a long way there is only so much that I can do. One of the biggest is finding ways to be detailed oriented and consistent with it. I've tried, and have come along way, but I have to accept that I can only go so far with it, there is a limit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hard View Post
    That's fair, but as I said elsewhere in the reply, there are still limits beyond that. I've tried to push myself around in multiple ways to be who I ideally want to be, and while I have come a long way there is only so much that I can do. One of the biggest is finding ways to be detailed oriented and consistent with it. I've tried, and have come along way, but I have to accept that I can only go so far with it, there is a limit.
    Your limit, there is noone else who can put a limit onto yourself except for you.

    You think that the person you are needs fixing and isnt loveable this way and thats why you will never be happy in life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by entropie View Post
    Your limit, there is noone else who can put a limit onto yourself except for you.

    You think that the person you are needs fixing and isnt loveable this way and thats why you will never be happy in life.
    Not all of my limits are self imposed. What you're saying is that anyone can be who they want if they just try. They should, because that's how you better as a person. However the idea that everyone will actually get there just makes the idea of personality completely moot then, which is why I contest it.

    That, and the psychoanalysis really is not needed here (nor is it right).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hard View Post
    That's fair, but as I said elsewhere in the reply, there are still limits beyond that. I've tried to push myself around in multiple ways to be who I ideally want to be, and while I have come a long way there is only so much that I can do. One of the biggest is finding ways to be detailed oriented and consistent with it. I've tried, and have come along way, but I have to accept that I can only go so far with it, there is a limit.
    You think you are your ego, that's where the misunderstanding is happening. On a Jungian psychology forum, of all places! Anyway, I should just mind my own business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hard View Post
    Not all of my limits are self imposed. What you're saying is that anyone can be who they want if they just try. They should, because that's how you better as a person. However the idea that everyone will actually get there just makes the idea of personality completely moot then, which is why I contest it.

    That, and the psychoanalysis really is not needed here (nor is it right).
    Your choice

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forever_Jung View Post
    You think you are your ego, that's where the misunderstanding is happening. On a Jungian psychology forum, of all places! Anyway, I should just mind my own business.
    Ok I honestly don't understand then. Maybe I am not clear on what limit means in this context?
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