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  • Adventurous

    9 5.96%
  • Agressive

    5 3.31%
  • Artistic

    10 6.62%
  • Conscientious

    20 13.25%
  • Devoted

    8 5.30%
  • Dramatic

    15 9.93%
  • Idiosyncratic

    49 32.45%
  • Inventive

    13 8.61%
  • Leisurely

    33 21.85%
  • Mercurial

    19 12.58%
  • Self-Confident

    10 6.62%
  • Self-Sacrificing

    10 6.62%
  • Sensitive

    27 17.88%
  • Serious

    12 7.95%
  • Solitary

    34 22.52%
  • Vigilant

    37 24.50%
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    Quote Originally Posted by KDude View Post
    It corresponds better with Socionics ITps, who are Fi valuing, but not entirely like ITJs.
    I added to that post. But I agree in that Socionics is truer to JCF than MBTI by far. The only problem with Socionics is the VI, which people in the Western world tend to detest. And so they throw out all Socionics on the basis of one little part of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal+ View Post
    I added to that post. But I agree in that Socionics is truer to JCF than MBTI by far. The only problem with Socionics is the VI, which people in the Western world tend to detest. And so they throw out all Socionics on the basis of one little part of it.
    I reminded myself of that after I posted. None of the original theorists and teachers behind it even thought about VI or supported it though. It came up much later, I think.

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    "Vigilant
    Code: VIG
    Disorder: Paranoid
    Enneagram: 8, 6 (counterphobic)"

    I see that the page agrees with me on that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KDude View Post
    I reminded myself of that after I posted. None of the original theorists and teachers behind it even thought about VI or supported it though. It came up much later, I think.
    I don't see what the big deal is about VI. Over twenty years ago someone was doing VI with the enneagram and sending the results in to the Enneagram Monthly. Those would be batches of people pics, mostly of strangers, and his calls on them - it's just type-watching.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal+ View Post
    I don't see what the big deal is about VI. Over twenty years ago someone was doing VI with the enneagram and sending the results in to the Enneagram Monthly. Those would be batches of people pics, mostly of strangers, and his calls on them - it's just type-watching.
    In Socionics' case, there's no real method to it. That's a problem. There was a socionics writer (Filatova) who conducted public typings in the 80s and kept a notebook of photos. When she published her research, she merely commented on the side that she thought there were some physical similitaries with people. She didn't make anything out of it. The important thing is that she had made an effort to determine their types by Jungian/Socionics theories. It was layman who latched on to the photos, and by the time Socionics made it's way into the west, there was a whole school of thought revolving around VI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KDude View Post
    In Socionics' case, there's no real method to it. That's a problem. There was a socionics writer (Filatova) who conducted public typings in the 80s and kept a notebook of photos. When she published her research, she merely commented on the side that she thought there were some physical similitaries with people. She didn't make anything out of it. The important thing is that she had made an effort to determine their types by Jungian/Socionics theories. It was layman who latched on to the photos, and by the time Socionics made it's way into the west, there was a whole school of thought revolving around VI.
    In other words, Filatova didn't know what types those people were, and neither did anybody else? Nobody has verified the types? Likewise, I could take some mugshots off the web and group them according to similar characteristics, and then give them group Jungian types?
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    the original test results:


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    Your Personality Profile Type(s): Leisurely

    Leisurely

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    Free to be me, happiness is what their life is all about, can find pleasure from almost any source.

    For the full profile of your type click here.

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    Type Percent
    Vigilant 57%
    Solitary 36%
    Idiosyncratic 33%
    Adventurous 32%
    Mercurial 44%
    Dramatic 13%
    Self - Confident 28%
    Sensitive 36%
    Devoted 11%
    Concientous 33%
    Leisurely 61%
    Aggressive 25%
    Self - Sacrificing 31%
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal+ View Post
    In other words, Filatova didn't know what types those people were, and neither did anybody else? Nobody has verified the types? So I could take some mugshots off the web and group them according to similar characteristics, and then give them group Jungian types?
    No, she determined the types by interacting with them. I assume much like any other mbti consultant/writer. She just happened to take photos for cataloguing purposes. She published some of the photos in her books, but didn't support visual identification herself. Her readers latched on to that.

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    Solitary: 64%
    Dramatic: 69%
    Conscientious: 78%
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    Does not sound very INTJ-like.

    Vigilant 43%
    Solitary 7%
    Idiosyncratic 39%
    Adventurous 23%
    Mercurial 56%
    Dramatic 56%

    Self - Confident 39%
    Sensitive 36%
    Devoted 17%
    Concientous 50%
    Leisurely 39%
    Aggressive 19%
    Self - Sacrificing 25%

    Mercurial

    Code: MER
    Disorder: Borderline
    Enneagram: 4w3, 7w6
    Variant: Sexual
    Myers-Briggs: ESFP, ENFP
    Function: Extraverted Feeling

    Description: Life is a roller coaster for those with the Mercurial personality style -- and they'll insist you come along for the ride. From the peaks to the valleys, intensity imbues their every breath. Mercurial women and men yearn for experience, and they jump into a new love or a new lifestyle with both feet, without even a glance backward. No other style, the Dramatic included, is so ardent in its desire to connect with life and with other people. And no other style is quite so capable of enduring the changes in emotional weather that such a fervidly lived life will bring.

    Romantic attachment. Mercurial individuals must always be deeply involved in a romantic relationship with one person.
    Intensity. They experience a passionate, focused attachment in all their relationships. Nothing that goes on between them and other people is trivial, nothing taken lightly.
    Heart. They show what they feel. They are emotionally active and reactive. Mercurial types put their hearts into everything.
    Unconstraint. They are uninhibited, spontaneous, fun-loving, and undaunted by risk.
    Activity. Energy marks the Mercurial style. These individuals are lively, creative busy, and engaging. They show initiative and can stir others to activity.
    Open mind. They are imaginative and curious, willing to experience and experiment with other cultures, roles, and value systems and to follow new paths.
    Alternate states. People with Mercurial style are skilled at distancing or distracting themselves from reality when it is painful or harsh.

    Dramatic

    Code: DRA
    Disorder: Histrionic
    Enneagram: 2w3, 7w6
    Variant: Social
    Myers-Briggs: ESFJ, ESFP
    Function: Extraverted Feeling

    Description: Dramatic types are all heart. They have been granted the gift of feeling, with which they color the lives of everyone around them. When possessed of great talent, Dramatic men and women can transform human emotion into the highest art form. Even in their daily lives, their wit, their laughter, their sense of beauty, their flamboyance, and their sensuality can lift the spirits of a roomful of strangers. All the world's a stage for individuals with this very common personality style. Life is never dull or boring for them and certainly not for those who share it with them. Dramatic people fill their world with excitement; things happen in their lives.

    Feelings. Dramatic men and women live in an emotional world. They are sensation oriented, emotionally demonstrative, and physically affectionate, They react emotionally to events and can shift quickly from mood to mood.
    Color. They experience life vividly and expansively. They have rich imaginations, they tell entertaining stories, and they are drawn to romance and melodrama.
    Attention. Dramatic people like to be seen and noticed. They are often the center of attention, and they rise to the occasion when all eyes are on them.
    Appearance. They pay a lot of attention to grooming, and they enjoy clothes, style, and fashion.
    Sexual attraction. In appearance and behavior, Dramatic individuals enjoy their sexuality. They are seductive, engaging, charming tempters and temptresses.
    Engagement. Easily putting their trust in others, they are able to become quickly involved in relationships.
    The spirit is willing. People with Dramatic personality style eagerly respond to new ideas and suggestions from others.

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