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    Default Why Him? Why Her? (Helen Fisher Test)

    Dunno if we've seen this test here, it's the Helen Fisher test at Chemistry.com. (If there's another thread I missed, we can merge them, no biggie.)

    Her system I think has been discussed by Eric B and others in conjunction with the Four Humours style temperaments, since she has four archetypes (Director, Negotiator, Explorer, Builder) that are paired up in order to create a type read. She believes (at least for the purposes of her schtick here, which might easily be all this is) that these are related to particular hormones or neurotransmitters (testosterone, estrogen, dopamine, serotonin).

    Explorer: (more dopamine expression) -- risk-taking, curious, creative, impulsive, optimistic and energetic

    Builder: (more serotonin expression) -- cautious but not fearful, calm, traditional, community-oriented, persistent and loyal

    Director: (more testosterone expression) -- very analytical, decisive, tough-minded; they like to debate and can be aggressive

    Negotiator: (more estrogen expression) -- broadminded imaginative, compassionate, intuitive, verbal, nurturing, altruistic and idealistic
    The test is here:
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    I actually found my results to be descriptive, compared to some of the other results I've read.


    Negotiator/Director

    You have a broad overview of reality. You like to tackle large, complex issues and weigh all the variables involved. And you can be innovative and bold, generating new perspectives and providing imaginative solutions to ambiguous social, political, intellectual or technical problems.

    You have fine tuned social skills, easily picking up the gestures, facial expressions and speech patterns of others and expressing yourself clearly and vividly. You are intuitive, too; you understand people, and genuinely sympathize with them. Because you are also flexible and cooperative, you are also good at working in teams.

    Yet despite your poise in social situations, you often prefer solitude or informed and detailed conversations with just one individual or a few close friends. You try to avoid routine meetings and social engagements. You prize your independence.

    You like to focus deeply and thoroughly on your interests. You can be exacting, tough-minded, analytical and strategic in your approach, too. You leave no stone unturned.

    In relationships

    You are idealistic and romantic. You want to bond in a spiritual sense, communicate your innermost feelings and sustain an intense and meaningful relationship. You have a rich fantasy life. And, for you, sex must be mixed with romance and meaning. When you find true love, you focus your attention on your beloved. You give thoughtful gifts, are sensitive to your mate's feelings and communicate your emotions clearly. I don't know if I'm quite THAT good. You are capable of unconditional love. You can be irreverent about traditional marriage, however. You feel your personal commitment is the true marriage vow. In fact, you may be inclined to write your own vows and create a non-traditional wedding ceremony. You unconsciously gravitate to those who are imaginative and playful with ideas. You also like those with an unruffled calm and decisiveness, those who are ambitious, and those who can focus on their goals-individuals who complement your restless soul-searching.

    Relating to Others

    You seek an authentic connection with just about everyone you meet, and you want to have in-depth discussions with friends and colleagues about ideas and feelings. You do not suffer fools gladly; "small talk" leaves you cold.

    Things to be Aware of

    1. Because you can see so many angles to an issue or decision, you can be indecisive.
    2. You wrestle with the contradictory feelings of being too eager to please and being tough minded.
    3. When you feel betrayed you can be unforgiving and hold a grudge too long. Note: I tend not to hold grudges, even if I would like to; but I'll admit to still hurting for long periods of time even if I do not direct it back as anger.
    Interestingly, I was on a Socionics blog reviewing their opinion of Fisher's ideas and they drew some comparison between her types and Socionics:

    So, a common type for an ILE might be "EXPLORER/director," for IEE - "EXPLORER/negotiator," for IEI "NEGOTIATOR/explorer," for ILI "NEGOTIATOR/director," for LSE "DIRECTOR/builder," etc.
    So it matches up for me; ILI is my socionics type.
    Last edited by Vasilisa; 02-28-2012 at 06:49 PM. Reason: merged
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    I did this maybe a week ago just to get the test [I saw it advertised on a commercial] then promptly deleted my account. I got Director/explorer, which I assumed to be NT/sp.

    If I were to guess, I'd actually go

    Director-NT

    Negotiator-NF

    Builder-SJ

    Explorer-SP


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    This was a cool test!

    I got the exact same thing as Jennifer.
    () 9w8-3w4-7w6 tritype.

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    I got Negotiator/explorer. What is socionics "ILI"? INTp? Haha...

    [edit] Oh wait.. IEI..

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    I think that Negotiator/explorer would be a better fit for me... is there any way to see all of the descriptions?
    () 9w8-3w4-7w6 tritype.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackCat View Post
    I think that Negotiator/explorer would be a better fit for me... is there any way to see all of the descriptions?
    I haven't found any place with the COMBOs described.

    However, here are a few outcomes I've cribbed from people's posts on other forums.

    Explorer/Negotiator

    You are a highly spontaneous, inquisitive and energetic person who always likes to try new things. You find novel and unpredictable situations challenging and exciting. You particularly like discussing big ideas and having conversations about complex social, political or intellectual puzzles. And you are able to juggle a lot of projects at the same time; as a result you are sometimes a whirlwind of activity.

    You have a firm grip on reality and enjoy living in the present tense. But you have a keen imagination that enables you to lift off from reality to be remarkably creative.

    You are humorous. You are able to laugh at yourself. And you are agreeable, adaptable and changeable. You impose few limits on others and have little tolerance for fixed rules, schedules or traditions.

    You have a deep sense of compassion. You can show genuine insight into the needs of others; you are good at listening, talking and compromising; and you express a genuine desire to be helpful to others and to the world at large.
    Novelty seeking
    Impulsive and spontaneous
    Curious
    Creative
    Flexible
    Open-minded
    Energetic

    Sees the big picture
    Imaginative
    Intuitive
    Verbal skills
    Empathetic
    Trusting
    Introspective
    As an Explorer you like knowledge, adventure and the pleasures of the senses, and you are drawn to those who are enthusiastic, curious, creative and energetic-people like yourself. Sex is important to you, too. As a Negotiator, you have a big heart; you are flexible and sensitive to the feelings of others and you are driven to seek harmony in your social life. So you avoid conflict, as well as people who compete with you. You also avoid those who structure your time and block things from happening spontaneously. And you can feel pressured by other's needs. So you are attracted to individuals who share your "live and let live" attitude. Money is secondary to you, so you also respect individuals who can part with theirs, particularly when spending leads to adventure or improves the world. And you are drawn to people who are direct, decisive and tough minded to balance out your flexible, spontaneous, intuitive style. You are charismatic, agreeable and adaptable and you can adapt to just about any social situation, convincing others you are just like them. And with your flexibility, liberal attitude and lack of prejudice, you can find something interesting in just about anyone. But when your interest wanes, you depart; you cannot tolerate boredom.
    You are so mentally flexible and spontaneous that you can appear indecisive and unpredictable.
    Don't be impatient with cautious people or those with more rigid views of morality.
    Focus on one thing at a time.
    You tend to naturally gravitate to EXPLORER/directors.
    Director/Explorer

    You seek challenges. You are a tough-minded, independent thinker who likes to explore ideas or problems thoroughly. You focus easily. And you are systematic and exacting in pursuing your interests and goals. You are also assertive. You have a lot of energy. You think quickly, make decisions faster than most, and take an analytical approach to people, issues and ideas.

    You are not conventional in your attitudes or values. Autonomy is essential to you. You do not follow the rules unless the rules are logical and useful. Nor do you unreservedly respect authority. Instead, you tend to be skeptical, irreverent and pragmatic. And you are comfortable working or pursuing your hobbies alone.

    Yet you have a wild side. You are daring; you like novel ideas and new adventures. You are not interested in maintaining routine social engagements either, and you can't tolerate "small talk." Instead, you make a few very close friends, particularly with individuals who share your interests.
    Director/Negotiator

    You are an analytical, focused and independent thinker with a deep interest in how the world works. You quickly grasp patterns and relationships and see the many sides of any complex issue. And when you focus on a particular business, social, personal or intellectual problem, you often come up with a novel solution. You are tough minded, skeptical and imaginative.

    You want to make an impact on the world. And with your aptitude for theoretical thinking, your investigative rigor, your logic and your determination, you are likely to win the honors your hard work deserves.

    Despite your need for independence and your resistance to any regulations or codes of conduct you find controlling, you make close friends. You like being with friends who provide stimulating conversation, as well as express their emotions and inner feelings. And you work to maintain these authentic connections.

    You are a complex person, outwardly assertive, logical, skeptical and focused, yet you can feel and express genuine sympathy for others.

    Director (Primary Traits)
    Decisive
    Focused
    Analytical
    Logical
    Competitive
    Self disciplined
    Independant

    Negotiator (Secondary Traits)
    Sees the big picture
    Imaginative
    Intuitive
    Verbal skills
    Empathetic
    Trusting
    Introspective

    As a Director, you tend to be loyal, uncomplaining and not possessive. You like individuals who want to play with abstract ideas and explore the complex ways the world works. You seek a "mind mate." Because you are often direct and bold, you unconsciously seek someone who is socially nuanced. Because you analyze your emotions, as well as hide them, you also like people who are emotionally expressive. Once you find someone who fits within your mental template of the ideal mate, you can dedicate yourself to this partnership. And once committed, you feel pledged to the union--often long before wedding. However, as you rarely follow rules or customs unless necessary, marriage is not as important to you as your personal vows. You work to sustain romance throughout a relationship, too. You give special gifts and celebrate special partnership events with flair and sensitivity.

    You love knowledge so you engage your friends and family with rigorous, theoretical and broad discussions that can be highly entertaining and informative. And when you are interested, you can be a very sensitive and insightful companion.

    You are susceptible to intense anger when you feel hurt, disappointed or frustrated.
    Your ambition can lead to workaholism.
    You can be impatient with chit chat and routine social engagements.

    You tend to naturally gravitate to NEGOTIATOR/directors.
    NEGOTIATOR/builder

    You are interested in the big picture. You like to examine large, ambiguous issues and ideas. You carefully weigh all of the variables involved, connect disparate facts in novel ways and regularly come up with imaginative solutions to complex problems. You see holistically and can be visionary.

    You are friendly and humane. You have a big heart; you tend to trust people and sympathize with them easily. You intuitively know what they are thinking and feeling. And because you are agreeable and mentally flexible, you go out of your way to make others comfortable and happy. You seek to make intimate, meaningful friendships.

    Your empathy and altruism spill over into a desire to make the world a better place. And with your resilience and imagination, your ability to do many things at the same time, your people skills and your command of language, you can be remarkably effective at improving the lives of others.

    You are also traditional. You have clear moral values and tend to stick to your point of view. Yet you almost always seek consensus and harmony, and are willing to give up some of your pleasures to build an orderly, harmonious home and family life.
    "Hey Capa -- We're only stardust." ~ "Sunshine"

    “Pleasure to me is wonder—the unexplored, the unexpected, the thing that is hidden and the changeless thing that lurks behind superficial mutability. To trace the remote in the immediate; the eternal in the ephemeral; the past in the present; the infinite in the finite; these are to me the springs of delight and beauty.” ~ H.P. Lovecraft

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    Nice test. Here's my results (not surprising):


    Explorer/Negtiator

    You are a highly spontaneous, inquisitive and energetic person who always likes to try new things. You find novel and unpredictable situations challenging and exciting. You particularly like discussing big ideas and having conversations about complex social, political or intellectual puzzles. And you are able to juggle a lot of projects at the same time; as a result you are sometimes a whirlwind of activity.

    You have a firm grip on reality and enjoy living in the present tense. But you have a keen imagination that enables you to lift off from reality to be remarkably creative.

    You are humorous. You are able to laugh at yourself. And you are agreeable, adaptable and changeable. You impose few limits on others and have little tolerance for fixed rules, schedules or traditions.

    You have a deep sense of compassion. You can show genuine insight into the needs of others; you are good at listening, talking and compromising; and you express a genuine desire to be helpful to others and to the world at large.Novelty seeking
    Impulsive and spontaneous
    Curious
    Creative
    Flexible
    Open-minded
    Energetic
    Sees the big picture
    Imaginative
    Intuitive
    Verbal skills
    Empathetic
    Trusting
    Introspective
    As an Explorer you like knowledge, adventure and the pleasures of the senses, and you are drawn to those who are enthusiastic, curious, creative and energetic-people like yourself. Sex is important to you, too. As a Negotiator, you have a big heart; you are flexible and sensitive to the feelings of others and you are driven to seek harmony in your social life. So you avoid conflict, as well as people who compete with you. You also avoid those who structure your time and block things from happening spontaneously. And you can feel pressured by other's needs. So you are attracted to individuals who share your "live and let live" attitude. Money is secondary to you, so you also respect individuals who can part with theirs, particularly when spending leads to adventure or improves the world. And you are drawn to people who are direct, decisive and tough minded to balance out your flexible, spontaneous, intuitive style. You are charismatic, agreeable and adaptable and you can adapt to just about any social situation, convincing others you are just like them. And with your flexibility, liberal attitude and lack of prejudice, you can find something interesting in just about anyone. But when your interest wanes, you depart; you cannot tolerate boredom.You are so mentally flexible and spontaneous that you can appear indecisive and unpredictable.
    Don't be impatient with cautious people or those with more rigid views of morality.
    Focus on one thing at a time.
    You tend to naturally gravitate to EXPLORER/directors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    Negotiator/Director
    I took this test a long time ago, and those were my results, as well. I think the description is fairly accurate, although I'm not attracted to Director/Negotiators and would never date one. (I'm guessing that Negotiator/Explorer would be closer to my type, although I don't have a profile to judge by.)
    [ Ni > Ti > Fe > Fi > Ne > Te > Si > Se ][ 4w5 sp/sx ][ RLOAI ][ IEI-Ni ]

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    I got Director/Explorer

    About Your Personality Type
    You seek challenges. You are a tough-minded, independent thinker who likes to explore ideas or problems thoroughly. You focus easily. And you are systematic and exacting in pursuing your interests and goals. You are also assertive. You have a lot of energy. You think quickly, make decisions faster than most, and take an analytical approach to people, issues and ideas.

    You are not conventional in your attitudes or values. Autonomy is essential to you. You do not follow the rules unless the rules are logical and useful. Nor do you unreservedly respect authority. Instead, you tend to be skeptical, irreverent and pragmatic. And you are comfortable working or pursuing your hobbies alone.

    Yet you have a wild side. You are daring; you like novel ideas and new adventures. You are not interested in maintaining routine social engagements either, and you can't tolerate "small talk." Instead, you make a few very close friends, particularly with individuals who share your interests.
    In Love and Relationships
    As a Director you seek someone who is self-sufficient and enjoys time alone. You also like a partner who is imaginative and intuitive and not competitive with you. And because you can be oblivious to rules and schedules, your partner must be flexible. For you, sex is woven with subtleties and symbolism and you like a mate who finds intimacy in this unspoken psychological journey. To balance your direct style and tendency to make up your mind quickly, you gravitate to a mate with good social skills--someone who weighs alternatives carefully, listens actively and handles conflict with nuanced grace. And because you tend to hide your emotions, you often seek someone who is emotionally expressive. You also like someone who is spontaneous, even mischievous, as well as a mate who can appreciate your rugged individualism and support of your drive to succeed.
    Relating to others
    You are direct and informed; and you gravitate to men and women who are intellectually exciting and like to discuss topics broadly and thoroughly. Because you are curious, creative, ambitious, hard working and unconventional in your attitudes and values, your friends admire you. In return you are fiercely loyal to those you love.

    Things to be aware of
    * You are susceptible to intense anger when you feel hurt, disappointed or frustrated.
    * Your ambition can lead to workaholism.
    * You can lack self-reflection.

    Spark Factor
    You tend to naturally gravitate to NEGOTIATOR/explorers.
    seems about right.

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