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    Quote Originally Posted by Beyonce View Post
    Would you say Explorer/Director is more ESTP? It's interesting that they pair explorers together and builders together but negotiators are matched with directors.

    Since I got Explorer/Negotiator I'm interested in what type tendencies that might lead to hehe.

    Well, they tested this theory of attraction on a dating site with over 7 million people. Apparently there is truth to both sayings: like attracts like and opposites attract. You see, builders prefer fellow builders as they prefer someone who values the same things they do. Similarly, explorers need someone who can keep up with their novelty seeking and therefore prefer someone as adventurous as they are whereas Negotiators and Directors tend to be two sides of the same coin and very much compliment each others skills.

    They very much state that *all* combinations can work given awareness and respect for the differences between the two partners, but the tendencies are that these combos are most attracted to each other and in theory work best.

    Again, I think that while there is some overlap with MBTI, it is unlikely to be a perfect match and unwise to really focus on the correlation. With that said, I do find it interesting that MBTI pairs people with their opposite, whatever their type. And I have to admit that the attraction/partner theory - although it works in my case - seemed the most wonky in both socionics and MBTI. I find that helen fishers is way more accurate, imho. That, and there are actual studies backing it up.

    As for your question, I guess I'd consider an ESTP likely Explorer/Director. Though I can think of one STP who I know beyond a shadow of a doubt to be Director/Explorer. Hence the previous disclaimer.
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    You are a DIRECTOR/builder

    About Your Personality Type
    You are an independent thinker who builds theories and approaches problems with an analytical, exacting, systematic and resourceful mind. And with your persistence, logic and determination, you tend to find innovative solutions to complex problems. You are particularly good with technical problems, those of mechanics, engineering, math, medicine, accounting, music or other "rule based" systems.

    Although you enjoy being part of a stable, secure social network, you easily spend time alone, pursuing your own projects and goals at your own speed, according to your own rules. You can focus your attention to the exclusion of all around you. And you have a deep sense of autonomy.

    You are a private person; you contain your emotions. You are also calm, efficient, quick to make decisions and remarkably self-disciplined. Yet you have a traditional, even sentimental streak. Family is important to you and you can be very protective of those you love. Director primary traits
    Decisive
    Focused
    Analytical
    Logical
    Competitive
    Self disciplined
    Independent
    Builder secondary traits
    Traditional
    Social
    Loyal
    Dependable
    Patient
    Community oriented
    Orderly

    In Love and Relationships

    As a Director you admire and collect knowledge; so you want a partner with whom you can have focused, educated, and often theoretical discussions on intellectual topics-a mind mate. You are direct and tough-minded, too. So you are attracted to someone who can complement you-someone who is verbally graceful, who weighs alternatives carefully and listens actively, and has well-honed social skills. Because you contain your emotions, you also gravitate to a mate who is warm and emotionally expressive. Yet you do not like people who engage in public displays of emotion, showing lack of self-containment. Because you have difficulty tolerating controlling people, you need a mate who is flexible, even indecisive. You particularly admire a partner who is self-sufficient. And you like a mate who is eager to help you make a stable home and maintain your public, business, and social ties. Relating to others Because you are ambitious, tough-minded and hardworking, your close friends admire you. In return, you can be fiercely loyal and protective of all those you love. Yet your complex personality is often hidden behind a wall of composure and logic.

    Things to be aware of
    You are susceptible to intense anger when you feel hurt, disappointed or frustrated.
    Your ambition can lead to workaholism.
    You can become impatient with people and situations that appear simple-minded or circuitous.

    Spark Factor - You tend to naturally gravitate to NEGOTIATOR/builders.
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    A discussion is two people sharing their understanding, even when they disagree.

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    "The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents... Some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new Dark Age. " - H.P. Lovecraft

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    Dunno if we've seen this test here, it's the Helen Fisher test at Chemistry.com. (If there's another thread I missed, we can merge them, no biggie.)

    Her system I think has been discussed by Eric B and others in conjunction with the Four Humours style temperaments, since she has four archetypes (Director, Negotiator, Explorer, Builder) that are paired up in order to create a type read. She believes (at least for the purposes of her schtick here, which might easily be all this is) that these are related to particular hormones or neurotransmitters (testosterone, estrogen, dopamine, serotonin).
    NEGOTIATOR/Director as well.

    Helen Fisher is how I came to find MBTI. It was actually a talk she gave at CARTA that started it all for me.



    I wonder how type incest would work with her system.
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    I got Director/Builder it fits. Don't really know if it's a good thing though....
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    negotiator/explorer

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    I've taken this before and got Negotiator and Explorer tied. Today, I took it and got Negotiator/Builder. I'd say the former is more true to who I've been for most of my life. I'm in an unusual phase right now.
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    Negotiator/Builder

    Sounds pretty accurate.

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    My test is broken...does anyone seriously think this describes me at all?

    Builder/Negotiator

    Um apparently I like....

    -people, community, managing others, community and socialising...

    Here's a great quote that's me all over...

    And with your imagination and people skills, just about everybody likes you.

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