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    The Logical Thinker
    If there is such a thing as a purely rational person, you’re it. Everything you think about and do needs to be analyzed and systematized logically. You live by deduction. First A, then B, next CÂ…

    Everything is categorized into its place and function. Next, it’s checked to see if it’s factual and can be proven scientifically. Then, and only then, will you deliberately proceed any further.

    Checks and Balances
    Yes, yours is a life of checks and balances to the smallest decimal place. No detail is overlooked. You only take precise steps that are planned out well in advance. Thinking and logic are supreme. Knowledge is the foundation. Everything is a chess match at the Masters level!

    You’re not a risk taker. It doesn’t mean that you’re not adventurous. It means that before you take the first step every possible move and option that can be controlled has been thought through thoroughly. You only like to deal with probabilities in your favor at 99.44 percent. Joy for you is minimizing luck.

    The Ultimate Planner
    You are admired by many because of your thinking skills and the way you skillfully design your life and the steps in the lives of others. You’re the ultimate planner. Your opinions are treasured and trusted. Most people know that before you do anything or advise others about anything, you have reached broadly and delved deeply into the history and facts. Everyone realizes that you are conscientious and respectful of doing the right thing in the right way.

    How You Learn
    You are a lifelong learner. Everything is absorbed like a blotter by your lock-step memory. Then it is carefully processed and contextually stored with other pertinent information. When the need arises, you retrieve and reprocess the information for appropriate applications. Rarely does your memory or logical use of stored information fail.

    How You Interact with Others
    You’re basically an introverted and low-key person who likes everything to be orderly and impersonal. Reserved, proper and calm are words that are often used to describe you. You usually donÂ’t like to interact verbally or personally with other people. You are independent and can be a loner very easily. Sometimes, your best friend is your computer and its Internet access.

    However, if you don't invest some energy and emotions into communication and relationships, you’ll be seen as boring, stiff and “nerdy.” Relating to others is almost always done in an intellectual manner. However, this raises a paradoxical dilemma for you because you’re human and innately should be relating to others emotionally and socially, as well as intellectually.

    In a group setting you’re usually very quiet and rarely volunteer to speak unless you have something very pertinent to say. Even then, you are reticent at best. However, if someone you respect directly asks you for your opinion, you’ll answer if you deem the subject in question worthy of your attention. Then, and only then, will you respond in a thorough manner. If you are pushed to explain even more, you’ll use historical and logical explanations, including answering all of the possible questions as to why your responses are correct. Thus, you’ll not leave any rational leaf unturned and immediately you’ll halt the possibility that someone else may question you again about this subject area.

    Given the right opportunity to debate someone of equal or greater intellectual stature, you’ll jump at this fortuitous occasion. You’ll enter this competition because you know that, win, lose or draw, you’ll learn more than if you abstain. You’re not afraid of losing face; after all, it’s an opportunity to learn and achieve at a higher level. You’re not worried about the cost of learning.

    How You Judge Others
    Sometimes, particularly when you’re younger, you can be quite critical of others and haughty in your responses. In fact, as people speak, you are editing what they’re saying and judging their intellectual capacity. At some point in your life, you’ll recognize that you are much brighter and more knowledgeably prepared than most people. Thus, you have two choices as to how you are to respond: arrogantly critical or respectfully positive. Hopefully, youÂ’ve had enough experiences in life to respond in the latter manner so that people will not be intimidated and discontinue relating to you.

    The Final Analysis
    Overall, your intellectual insights, planning and meticulous behavior are seen by others as a great asset to the team and the organization. People depend on your articulate advice and logical thinking. Just be patient with them in the beginning and let them know what you think in a positive manner.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Glycerine View Post
    Interesting. I got the same.

    If you return to the test, you may find the word choices are different every time.
    (Whoever created the test doesn't know the meaning of the word: consistency.)
    If you take it 5 times, you may very well end up with 5 different results.

    Bottom line: Don't take the test seriously. Or fortune cookies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    If you return to the test, you may find the word choices are different every time.
    (Whoever created the test doesn't know the meaning of the word: consistency.)
    If you take it 5 times, you may very well end up with 5 different results.

    Bottom line: Don't take the test seriously. Or fortune cookies.
    I didn't much weight in that. I took it and said, "oh I got the same as Jag" and then closed out. If you are intelligent (or maybe "delusional" is more accurate) enough you can convince yourself of anything on self-report tests anyways. Thanks for the warning though.

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    A Natural People Person
    When you are walking down a corridor or a street, you like to greet or stop to speak to someone. People just love to talk with you about anything. That's because the positive energy that you give off during conversations develops an instant bond with everyone.

    You love to interact with people. It doesn't matter how many people there are or at what level you're communicating; you do it effortlessly. Conversation has been extremely natural to you your whole life.

    You have a wonderful sense of humor. When people are with you, they smile and laugh a lot. Whether it's telling a joke you heard before or sharing a spontaneous ad lib, you're naturally funny and entertaining. Your humor and ways of communicating are constantly creating situations that relax and motivate other people.

    Strategic Creativity
    Unless people know you very well, they won't realize that you are quite capable of creating strategic plans, following intellectual pursuits and developing new, abstract theories about how things integrate or function. You're able to look at the whole picture, break them into discrete, unusual parts, and synthesize these into unique wholes or strategic plans. You thoroughly enjoy discovering creative options when thinking through difficult problems and challenging ideas.

    Motivating and Leading Others
    When it comes to dealing with people and problems, you use a combination of intuitive and rational thoughts very successfully. Your positive, personal and intelligent ways of relating to people make them want to follow you during times of confusion and stress. It's when the situations are dynamic and need optional thinking and/or in-the-moment organization that you're able to step forward, take command and lead others towards successful outcomes. This is when your style of leadership becomes most effective.

    Even if you're not knowledgeable about a subject area under discussion, you come across as smooth and intelligent. It doesn't matter to you what conversations others are having or what topics they're discussing, you can join in without missing a beat. That's because you intuitively know how to listen to the underlying messages being delivered and how to successfully respond to people intellectually with just a few facts.

    How You Learn
    Besides reading and studying, conversations and dialogues provide you with an enjoyable opportunity to learn. It's during this repartee that you're able to ask any type of question: logical, analogical or just odd ones to serve your curiosity. One of the best ways for you to learn and to be motivated is to belong to a study group, particularly one that has members who are focused on the objectives and deadlines. The process of these groups can provide you with the focus and further detail to study and learn effectively.

    Speaking in front of Groups
    Speeches and presentations to small or large groups come naturally to you. You can either be prepared or wing it when making a speech. The latter, with a few notes jotted on a piece of scrap paper, is your preferred way to present. Also, you'll use theatrical intonations and gestures, personalized comments and anecdotes with humor, integrating them around facts, logic and important points. When you have finished, people leave your presentations feeling that you have presented a solid case, you have touched them personally and you have spoken to each one of them intellectually.

    Your Leadership Qualities
    As a leader, you're a powerful combination of intellectual insightfulness, future predictions and personal charm. The former allows you to plan and think things through intuitively and logically. The latter allows you to be empathetic and personal in your expression of motivation and planned action. The two of these combined give you the positive power that people trust and follow.


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    People who have a predominantly Left-brain Abstractthinking style thrive on careful analysis of all pertinent factors before making any decisions. Their style is naturally systematic and detail-oriented, characterized by the pursuit of logic, predictability and discipline. They may appear distant and aloof at times, as they prefer to listen rather than talk. They tend to stick to the rules and stay within the confines of their orderly world.

    When communicating with a Left-brain Abstract person, you are likely to experience the following characteristics:

    You might find their passion for logical analysis to be ponderous or overly pedantic at times, but if you keep an open mind, their conclusions could be beneficial to you.
    In situations where you must collaborate on a project or a plan, their tendency to stick to the rules can be limiting to your own creative visions. Present your optional ideas as logical alternatives worthy of consideration.
    They may appear distant and aloof at times, as they prefer to listen rather than talk. Don't take this personally or assume they're arrogant. Remember that they're absorbing and processing information before they render an opinion.
    They can be a valuable source of background or historical information, which you sometimes tend to overlook while you aim for the "big picture." Nevertheless, expect them to provide more details than you might care for.
    People who have a predominantly Right-brain Concrete thinking style thrive on interacting with people and being the center of attention. They inspire others with their charm and warm personality. They can read other people very easily and use their intuitive skills to adapt effortlessly to changing situations. They are excellent at exciting and persuading others to follow their suggestions. They often speak without spending too much time thinking about what to say.

    When communicating with a Right-brain Concrete person, you are likely to experience the following characteristics:

    At times, you might find their ebullient need to be the center of attention to be overpowering or annoying.
    Like therapists, they can sometimes encourage you to open up and confide with them about personal problems or concerns you have. You're usually okay with this, as long as they don't pry too deeply or push their solutions too strongly.
    As much as you think before you speak, they think by speaking. They are excellent at exciting and persuading others to follow their suggestions.
    Even if they don't take logic or factual data into account, they may come up with innovative or imaginative ideas that are worthy of your consideration.
    Since you both like to come up with ideas, the verbal interaction can be both personally rewarding and productive. They may not share your visionary creativity, but they often have an intuitive sense of what is most suited for you.
    They can sometimes seem manipulative in getting their way. While you might find their personal charm and charisma irresistible, don't allow yourself to be swayed in a direction that you know is not right for you.
    People who have a predominantly Left-brain Concrete thinking style are action-oriented and thrive on challenge. As movers of people and organizations, they enforce rules, focus on goals, meet deadlines, and demand immediate action. They typically avoid getting bogged down in details and want to go directly to the bottom line. They prefer short and easy action-items or conclusions. They are decisive people who want to get things done quickly and efficiently.

    When communicating with a Left-brain Concrete person, you are likely to experience the following characteristics:

    You might find their style at times overbearing or in some cases, even intimidating. As a result, you're likely to interact with them only as much as absolutely necessary.
    When it comes to solving problems, they view feelings or abstract concepts as intrusions that prevent them from reaching a firm conclusion. You'd be better off not allowing your feelings to become too much of an issue.
    On the other hand, your feelings about certain situations are paramount to your comfort level, so don't be afraid to let them know how important that is to you.
    There might be times that you will feel they are pushing too hard to get you to make a final decision. On the other hand, you might be struggling with all the options you're considering and could benefit from their decisive nature.
    Don't be offended by their direct talk if it seems abrupt Ð they are goal-oriented people who know how to get things done.
    When communicating with another Left-brain Concrete, you are likely to experience the following characteristics:

    Like you, they tend to be visionary thinkers who look at the big picture and try to understand how things relate to each other.
    They value creative, inspirational options as much as you do. They can usually provide interesting alternatives that would be worth your while to consider. At times, however, you might become a bit irritated with their tendency to go off on tangents when you're trying to focus on a particular issue of concern.
    With the tendency you both have to procrastinate while exploring your options, one of you will need to refocus your energies on making a decision when the need to accomplish something arises.
    You are both open-minded and feelings-oriented. Together, you are likely to create a relaxed, low-key atmosphere based on trust and good rapport.
    Remember to be patient with their quiet, reflective nature; just like you, they may be thinking of other options that are more suitable for you or for themselves.
    Ultimately, you both need to feel comfortable with how your decisions fit into your world.


    Stresses

    Using the Concluder style of learning can create stress for you. Yes, you can use it for short periods of time as a learning or production tool. But, the longer you use it, the more stressed you become. Your energy-focus, which accesses this particular process, may be blocked sometimes. It's as if you have a blind spot in this part of your repertoire. You just don't like to have to use it as a primary tool. The following is what may create stress for you if used for more than short time periods:


    • Always trying to be in control of or in charge of everything and everyone
    • Insisting on asking the question, "What is the objective of doing this?" and immediately taking action to accomplish it
    • Making sure everything you attempt is based on concrete, realistic and linear steps
    • Being concise about everything you think, learn or do ("less is more")
    • Demanding that efficiency be a constant motivator and goal
    • Being the highest achiever and one of the most successful people at all costs
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glycerine View Post
    If you are intelligent (or maybe "delusional" is more accurate) enough you can convince yourself of anything on self-report tests anyways.
    Oh, so you want to discuss the MBTI? Lol.

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    Sure, but if I had to guess, left brain concrete would be my secondary and left brain abstract be the avoid for me. Otherwise, pretty expected. Kind of a short test.
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    Motivational Visionary



    I'm not surprised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Santtu View Post
    I checked the self-reported type of everyone with results "visionary, ultimate universal holistic thinker" ..

    kyrielle: infj
    allaboutsoul: infj
    nightning: infj
    santtu: xntx

    Add me!

    *Second time taking the test I got Analytic Visionary. So I think I'm somewhere in the middle. But the first result was very accurate.

    I don't see a description for the result posted so far, so here it is:
    Your 4 Quadrant Style Guide

    (The picture isn't working, but the upper left and lower right were light blue, the bottom left was dark blue, and the upper right was red.)

    Communication Style


    The Visionary

    You're the ultimate universal, holistic thinker! Yes, you're a visionary. Everything, including the smallest detail, needs to be synthesized into a framework that answers the question, "How?" Before you begin any project or task, you need to see the big picture. Not one step can be taken until you know how that one step fits into the whole.
    Options and More Options!

    Ideas and options are what you're always creating. "Process" is your middle name. Once something seems concrete, structured and complete, you have a way of coming up with a creative option that changes the whole thing and leads to a better building process.

    Change, particularly in ideas, is never-ending for you. What you're enthusiastic about today may not be the focus of your energy in a week, a month or year. People that know you see a dynamic stream of consciousness which, given the right amount of time and people support, allows you to develop idealistic and artistic themes into living and creative realities. It makes no difference whether they are software programs, pieces of art, strategies for corporations or new, holistic developments for organic gardening.
    Time is on Your Side

    There is no timeline or deadline for your accomplishments. They are never-ending because you will go back and transform them if they evolve into a different whole within you. That is why in school or at work you procrastinate until the last moment to finish a paper, an assignment or a project. If you do the work early, at the time it's due, you'll have to go back and change it completely because you see it in a different contextual whole. So, why redo it?

    A futurist or a soothsayer! That is how some people describe you. You're always thinking about the future; you have an uncanny way of predicting what will be happening. What you forecast is not always logical and makes many people uncomfortable. But, if they've known you long enough, they use the awareness to be better prepared for upcoming situations or events.
    YouÂ’re your Own Person

    For you, being your own person is most important! You're off just enough to stand apart from the masses. Your idiosyncratic ways of self-expression often entertain, amaze or offend people. This may make you feel self-conscious or uncomfortable. However, it doesn't stop your unusual way of being. You realize it's just the price to pay for being your genuine self.
    How You Communicate with Others

    You're an excellent communicator with individuals and small groups of three, no more than four people. You listen attentively to what people say, how they say it and what feelings are generated. When you give feedback, it is usually very sensitive and leads to further communication. You have an unusual awareness of what is happening to the person and others that are participating. It's almost like a sixth sense. Sometimes, people distance themselves from you because of this sensitivity and your feedback.

    On the other hand, when you enter a room with conversant people, you can sense the themes of the discussions and the feelings being emoted. First, you'll look for people you know to talk with. After a while, some new people will be drawn into a conversation that you're having and begin sharing their thoughts and feelings with you. Many times, these new people that are drawn to you have a need to express their unusual thoughts and feelings to you. In some way, you attract people who are different or are going through difficult, emotional times.
    How You Think

    Your thinking process is mostly intuitive and analogic. You use facts and logic to back up your intuitive thought processing. When you weave these processes together, you're constantly challenging logical and scientific thought. You seem to stretch the facts to create a new theory or develop a synthetic way of tying different theories together. This optional way of thinking energizes your thought processes while at the same time focuses your energy on the facts in specific, yet different ways.

    Paradoxical thoughts attract you. While most people tend to avoid them, you seem curious and comfortable with them. That's because, once again, your need for creative and optional thinking doesn't have to be tied together with logic and factual data. You're attracted to the unknown more than the known. You're drawn to what's unusual about something rather than what is ordinary about it. If it's strange or way out there, you'll want to learn and read more about it.

    As a scientist or scholar, you have a bent towards the artistic side. What other people see as facts, you may see as shades of facts or possibilities of different facts. It's the development and creation of new ideas and ways of looking at something that excites you. That's because your world is the world of possibilities and visions.

    Communication Tips

    People who have a predominantly Left-brain Abstractthinking style thrive on careful analysis of all pertinent factors before making any decisions. Their style is naturally systematic and detail-oriented, characterized by the pursuit of logic, predictability and discipline. They may appear distant and aloof at times, as they prefer to listen rather than talk. They tend to stick to the rules and stay within the confines of their orderly world.

    When communicating with a Left-brain Abstract person, you are likely to experience the following characteristics:

    You might find their passion for logical analysis to be ponderous or overly pedantic at times, but if you keep an open mind, their conclusions could be beneficial to you.
    In situations where you must collaborate on a project or a plan, their tendency to stick to the rules can be limiting to your own creative visions. Present your optional ideas as logical alternatives worthy of consideration.
    They may appear distant and aloof at times, as they prefer to listen rather than talk. Don't take this personally or assume they're arrogant. Remember that they're absorbing and processing information before they render an opinion.
    They can be a valuable source of background or historical information, which you sometimes tend to overlook while you aim for the "big picture." Nevertheless, expect them to provide more details than you might care for.

    People who have a predominantly Right-brain Concrete thinking style thrive on interacting with people and being the center of attention. They inspire others with their charm and warm personality. They can read other people very easily and use their intuitive skills to adapt effortlessly to changing situations. They are excellent at exciting and persuading others to follow their suggestions. They often speak without spending too much time thinking about what to say.

    When communicating with a Right-brain Concrete person, you are likely to experience the following characteristics:

    At times, you might find their ebullient need to be the center of attention to be overpowering or annoying.
    Like therapists, they can sometimes encourage you to open up and confide with them about personal problems or concerns you have. You're usually okay with this, as long as they don't pry too deeply or push their solutions too strongly.
    As much as you think before you speak, they think by speaking. They are excellent at exciting and persuading others to follow their suggestions.
    Even if they don't take logic or factual data into account, they may come up with innovative or imaginative ideas that are worthy of your consideration.
    Since you both like to come up with ideas, the verbal interaction can be both personally rewarding and productive. They may not share your visionary creativity, but they often have an intuitive sense of what is most suited for you.
    They can sometimes seem manipulative in getting their way. While you might find their personal charm and charisma irresistible, don't allow yourself to be swayed in a direction that you know is not right for you.

    People who have a predominantly Left-brain Concrete thinking style are action-oriented and thrive on challenge. As movers of people and organizations, they enforce rules, focus on goals, meet deadlines, and demand immediate action. They typically avoid getting bogged down in details and want to go directly to the bottom line. They prefer short and easy action-items or conclusions. They are decisive people who want to get things done quickly and efficiently.

    When communicating with a Left-brain Concrete person, you are likely to experience the following characteristics:

    You might find their style at times overbearing or in some cases, even intimidating. As a result, you're likely to interact with them only as much as absolutely necessary.
    When it comes to solving problems, they view feelings or abstract concepts as intrusions that prevent them from reaching a firm conclusion. You'd be better off not allowing your feelings to become too much of an issue.
    On the other hand, your feelings about certain situations are paramount to your comfort level, so don't be afraid to let them know how important that is to you.
    There might be times that you will feel they are pushing too hard to get you to make a final decision. On the other hand, you might be struggling with all the options you're considering and could benefit from their decisive nature.
    Don't be offended by their direct talk if it seems abrupt Ð they are goal-oriented people who know how to get things done.

    When communicating with another Left-brain Concrete, you are likely to experience the following characteristics:

    Like you, they tend to be visionary thinkers who look at the big picture and try to understand how things relate to each other.
    They value creative, inspirational options as much as you do. They can usually provide interesting alternatives that would be worth your while to consider. At times, however, you might become a bit irritated with their tendency to go off on tangents when you're trying to focus on a particular issue of concern.
    With the tendency you both have to procrastinate while exploring your options, one of you will need to refocus your energies on making a decision when the need to accomplish something arises.
    You are both open-minded and feelings-oriented. Together, you are likely to create a relaxed, low-key atmosphere based on trust and good rapport.
    Remember to be patient with their quiet, reflective nature; just like you, they may be thinking of other options that are more suitable for you or for themselves.
    Ultimately, you both need to feel comfortable with how your decisions fit into your world.



    Stresses


    Using the Analyzer style can create stress for you. Yes, you can use it for short periods of time as a learning or production tool. But, the longer you use it, the more stressed you become. Your energy-focus, which accesses this particular process, may be blocked sometimes. It's as if you have a blind spot in this part of your repertoire. You just don't like to have to use it as a primary tool. The following is what may create stress for you if used for more than short time periods:


    Constantly asking the question, "Why?" and thoroughly examining the answers
    Always being skeptical about your facts, thinking or learning processes before undertaking or doing something
    Reaching a conclusion only based on thinking logically
    Using only factual assumptions to reach detailed, action-oriented steps
    Not expressing your opinions until they demonstrate an impeccable rationale

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