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    Optimists are a dying breed in this day and age. To the optimists, the world is a positive place. Everything is inherently good, and all things will work out in the end. They believe violence will one day be replaced with logic and reason, and that all religions can coexisist peacefully. These are the people who always see the glass half full, and believe that we live in the best possible world.

    Famous optimists include: Gottfried Leibniz, William Godwin.

    The opposite of Optimism is Skepticism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by targo View Post
    Optimist
    Optimists are a dying breed in this day and age. To the optimists, the world is a positive place. Everything is inherently good, and all things will work out in the end. They believe violence will one day be replaced with logic and reason, and that all religions can coexisist peacefully. These are the people who always see the glass half full, and believe that we live in the best possible world.

    Famous optimists include: Gottfried Leibniz, William Godwin.

    The opposite of Optimism is Skepticism.


    Talk about Optimism..

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    'Now if we have so far convinced ourselves apriori by the most universal considerations, by investigation of the first, elementary features of human life, that such a life, by whole tendency and disposition, is not capable of any true bliss or happiness, but is essentially suffering in many forms and a tragic state in every way, we might now awaken in this conviction much more vividly within us, if, by proceeding more aposteriori, we turned to more definite instances, brought pictures to the imagination, and described by examples the unspeakable misery presented by experience and history, wherever we look, and whatever avenue we explore?But perhaps at the end of his life, no man, be he sincere and at the same time in possession of his faculties, will ever wish to go through it again. Rather than this, he will much prefer to choose complete non-existenceThe essential purport of the world-famous Hamlet monologue is, in condensed form, that our state of existence is so wretched, that non-existence would decided be preferable to it.... If we were to conduct the most hardened and callous optimist through hospitals, infirmaries, operating theatres, through prisons, torture chambers, and slave-hovels, over battlefields and to places of execution; if we were to open him all the dark abodes of misery, where it shuns the gaze of cold curiosity, and finally were to allow him to glance into the dungeon of Ugolino where prisoners starved to death, he too would certainly see in the end what kind of a best of all possible worlds this is. For whence did Dante get the material for his hell, if not from this actual world of ours? And indeed he made a downright hell of it. On the other hand, when he came to the task of describing heaven and its delights, he had an insuperable difficulty before him, just because our world affords absolutely no material for anything of the kind?. For the rest I cannot here withhold the statement that optimism, where it is not merely the thoughtless talk of those who harbor nothing but words under their shallow foreheads, seems to me not merely an absurd, but also a really wicked, way of thinking, a bitter mockery of the unspeakable suffering of mankind. And let no one imagine that the Christian teaching is favorable to optimism, because in the gospels, evil and this world are used almost as synonymous expressions.

    No really... please tell me how you can honestly believe that the world is a positive place!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SolitaryWalker View Post
    Talk about Optimism..




    No really... please tell me how you can honestly believe that the world is a positive place!?

    seriously I have no idea how the 'quiz' came up with that response. I answered honestly and I tell you if my husband saw the results he would burst out laughing........
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    Quote Originally Posted by targo View Post
    seriously I have no idea how the 'quiz' came up with that response. I answered honestly and I tell you if my husband saw the results he would burst out laughing........
    So what do you think of that Schopenhauer quote..? you're not much of an optimist after all are you..?

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    rationalist.

    however, i think what nocturne wrote up applies to me more. things should be left open to debate. i mean, it was once a fact that the world was flat. you can debate about anything. people are imaginative; they'll just keep spitting out more scenarios and questions and counter-attacks. people will always be debating and debating for all eternity D:

    if i wasn't forced to be a rationalist in order to logically exist in this world, then i would be an optimist. hmph.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SolitaryWalker View Post
    So what do you think of that Schopenhauer quote..? you're not much of an optimist after all are you..?

    No I most certainly am not am optimist.....

    The quote while harsher than I would be is to some degree accurate. I would never again go through the life that is behind me...... I believe in some case that the world we live on is indeed hell on earth.... Yet I have a glimse into what I believe heaven to be, and I believe that it does indeed exsist.
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    Optimist
    Optimists are a dying breed in this day and age. To the optimists, the world is a positive place. Everything is inherently good, and all things will work out in the end. They believe violence will one day be replaced with logic and reason, and that all religions can coexisist peacefully. These are the people who always see the glass half full, and believe that we live in the best possible world.

    Famous optimists include: Gottfried Leibniz, William Godwin.

    The opposite of Optimism is Skepticism.
    Wyrd is a concept in Anglo-Saxon and Nordic culture roughly corresponding to fate. It is ancestral to Modern English weird, which has acquired a very different meaning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wyrdsister View Post
    Optimist
    Optimists are a dying breed in this day and age. To the optimists, the world is a positive place. Everything is inherently good, and all things will work out in the end. They believe violence will one day be replaced with logic and reason, and that all religions can coexisist peacefully. These are the people who always see the glass half full, and believe that we live in the best possible world.

    Famous optimists include: Gottfried Leibniz, William Godwin.

    The opposite of Optimism is Skepticism.
    Kidding, right?

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    Schopenhauer ah Schopenhauer! Eternal optimist and lover of all things female...
    Wyrd is a concept in Anglo-Saxon and Nordic culture roughly corresponding to fate. It is ancestral to Modern English weird, which has acquired a very different meaning.

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