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    Quote Originally Posted by mal12345 View Post
    There's no harm in asking.

    Closure and non-closure are pretty basic to the MBTI. They are represented by J and P, respectively.
    Now I'm confused at what we're arguing about (or are we not arguing?).

    I don't really know whether or not I'm a J or a P (I may lean a bit more to the J side, but anyway...), but that's beside the point...

    I was laughing at the order I received on the test, which was T-N-S-F. My N and T scores were outrageously high. If anything, I would place the N dead last. If I were to type myself, the order would go S-F-T-N (though the middle two letters may be switched). I'm one of the least intuitive people here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DisneyGeek View Post
    Now I'm confused at what we're arguing about (or are we not arguing?).

    I don't really know whether or not I'm a J or a P (I may lean a bit more to the J side, but anyway...), but that's beside the point...

    I was laughing at the order I received on the test, which was T-N-S-F. My N and T scores were outrageously high. If anything, I would place the N dead last. If I were to type myself, the order would go S-F-T-N (though the middle two letters may be switched). I'm one of the least intuitive people here.
    I hope you don't think I'm arguing, in fact I'm just bouncing ideas around in hopes that they will end up in a pattern that makes sense.

    I'll just go with the knowledge you already have of yourself.

    SFTN works out as iSfj, eSfp, iSfp, eSfj

    This makes more sense for your MBTI sig which has SiFi.

    So you just eliminate two of those four options and you're left with iSfj and iSfp.

    If you think you're about even on j and p, then maybe you're a mixed type. And just maybe the test you took can explain this.
    At least it allows for such a possibility, even if, as some claim, the test is skewed on the S scale. But now you're implying it's skewed on the N scale which goes against the other claims.

    Carl Jung was allegedly a mixed type, intp and intj.

    iSfj is the non-closure S. That is just strictly sensing, although internally, that is, storing information to be used for later judgments. (The ISFJ is likely to store information about people to use on them later, what we used to call "keeping books" on them.) This is the traditional MBTI ISFJ.

    iSfp is the closure S. That is a non-traditional form of ISFP. The reason it differs is because ISFP is normally F dominant, but in this case it is S dominant, extraverted sensing seeking closure. For example, the purpose of creating a work of art is not found with the artwork itself, but with the sense of closure it brings when it is finished, iSfp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mal12345 View Post

    iSfp is the closure S.
    Scratch that. Something was bothering me about that last part. So after putting some thought into this, I'm going with my second intuition here and changing my call on this to iSfp non-closure. That correlates with the MBTI ISFJ (because the S is dominant) who seeks non-closure.

    The Si still dominates the type. Introverted sensing communicates its inward presence via a type of difficult-to-describe feeling-impression which is not to be confused with emotion. If this type seeks closure, then the introverted feeling-impression reflects a state of satisfied closure as I stated in the above post. Instead, the iSfp type does not remain satisfied with closure but is dominated by the drive to experience more and more feeling-impression. As a result, the feeling becomes shallower.
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    Uh....

    You are such a Ti-dom.

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    This is why I prefer Te.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DisneyGeek View Post
    Uh....

    You are such a Ti-dom.
    I didn't expect you (by type) to like my post, but you're not the only one reading them so...
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    Quote Originally Posted by mal12345 View Post
    I didn't expect you (by type) to like my post, but you're not the only one reading them so...
    Don't let me stop your Ti from doing what it does best. Carry on!

    I just get bored easily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DisneyGeek View Post
    Don't let me stop your Ti from doing what it does best. Carry on!

    I just get bored easily.
    Saying that I am Ti seems rather Ti to me.
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    gender= male
    mbti type= INFP
    ennea type= 5w4
    why no types=NOTCHECKED
    why no types=NOTCHECKED
    intuiting =11
    sensing =6
    feeling =15
    thinking =5
    N-F-T-S = iNfj, iNfp, eNfp, eNfj
    F-N-S-T = inFp, inFj, enFj, enFp
    N-T-F-S = iNtj, iNtp, eNtp, eNtj
    T-N-S-F = inTp, enTj, inTj, enTp
    S-F-T-N = iSfj, eSfp, iSfp, eSfj
    T-S-N-F = isTp, esTj, isTj, esTp
    S-T-F-N = iStj, eStp, iStp, eStj
    F-S-N-T = isFp, esFj, isFj, esFp

    Interesting test, but my hunch is that it makes an effort to distort (or in some cases, balance) T/F.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mal12345 View Post
    Saying that I am Ti seems rather Ti to me.
    >_>

    Quote Originally Posted by NegativeZero View Post
    Interesting test, but my hunch is that it makes an effort to distort (or in some cases, balance) T/F.
    What do you mean by that? You results are consistent with INFP.

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