# Thread: Fudjack/Dinkelaker Functional Preferences Instrument

1. Originally Posted by FakePlasticAlice
intuiting =17
sensing =4
feeling =4
thinking =12

that really doesn't seem right.
I've boiled the options down to these two based on your introversion.

N-T-F-S = iNtj, iNtp

In MBTI theory, the j/p has a dual purpose: to determine if you seek closure or non-closure, and to determine your dominant function.

Fudgy's theory separates these two aspects of the j/p. He has retained the closure/non-closure aspect of the j/p, but has left it up to the test to determine your dominant function. Whereas before, the j/p score would have determined your dominant function.

According to the MBTI (as you know), the INFJ has iNtuition as its dominant trait as determined by the J (and introversion). The FD33 test has also determined that iNtuition is your dominant trait. So far so good!

But what the FD33 is not saying is that the J determines your dominant trait. This was determined purely by means of your score on the N scale. The J is saying, however, that you seek closure around iNtuition. In other words, iNtuition is not just used to gather information from, let's say, patterns, in order to make judgments; it is the judgment per se. "The medium is the message."

Does that sound correct?

If you want to know more about the high T score, then I would look at the test scores to consider why you chose this versus that answer and compare it to the page source which was posted above in the thread. The page source reveals the test key.

2. N: 8
S: 9
T: 10
F: 10

I don't think I've ever been so balanced before.

3. Take The Fudjack/Dinkelaker Functional Preferences Instrument Challenge!
I think I won't and say I did.

4. Originally Posted by highlander
I think I won't and say I did.
It's too late for that now though. Not very intj like, I say you take the test to confirm that type.

5. Originally Posted by Eric B
Yeah, the new "j/p" is what they use for this new "closure" factor. (Even though "closure" is supposed to be apart of the MBTI J/P. I would say that when P's desire "closure, it's likely from being dominant Ji. This would explain my own identification with the notion of "closure" sometimes. They desire internal rather than external closure like a J. If this is so. then it is already implicit in the other letters).
I don't believe this is correct. Internal closure is not implied in the other letters in MBTI. The MBTI nomenclature was based on the assumption that all closure was external. (And this was based on some reading of Jung that attempted to account for some gaps of knowledge in his typology.) The purpose of the J/P, in conjunction with I/E, was to make sure that all closure will be in an externalized form, whether it involves a dominant or auxiliary function. This is the assumption that Fudgy has called into question.

Also, if they wanted to integrate a fifth factor like that, why not use Comfort/Discomfort (The missing Neuroticism factor of the more psychologically respected FFM)?
I'm all for that. Neuroticism may account for the phenomenon of the so-called introverted extravert. This does not necessarily mean that an extraverted person has turned inward, but that the personality traits which were at one time dominant and external have turned inward due to a loss of self-confidence.

6. Originally Posted by mal12345
Don't waste your time imagining unrealistic possibilities - learn how to use statistics to assess the viability of a strategy.

Originally Posted by mal12345
Isn't one better off learning how to make accurate observations than trying to honor mere hunches?

Originally Posted by mal12345
I am more intrigued by patterns

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When I am in a leadership position I often find I am best as a good steward

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I would least like being called an idealist

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When I am conversing with someone, I get most annoyed when they speak in a way that is mystifying

Originally Posted by mal12345
I'd say that I'm most often concerned with what is

Originally Posted by mal12345
I am most likely to feel disoriented by too many choices

Originally Posted by mal12345
I am least offended when I am labeled an empiricist

Originally Posted by mal12345
Although I don't like it, I must admit that I can sometimes get superstitious and somewhat flakey

Originally Posted by mal12345
Although I may not brag about it, I can sometimes be perfectly precise and thorough

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People with whom I am not compatible might misconstrue my actions as uptight

Originally Posted by mal12345
At this point in my life I probably need to learn how to be more creative
Ummmm.... I'm not sure...

Make of this as you wish.

7. I found the problem with this test. Something about it makes people start to over-think things. One of the rules of testing is to go with your first instinct. But it's kind of hard to do when I can't understand some of the questions.

8. Originally Posted by LunaLuminosity
"At this point in my life I probably need to learn how to be more creative."
Ummmm.... I'm not sure...

Make of this as you wish.
It's a general S statement.

9. These are slightly weird results; apparently I have nothing in particular except intuition.

intuiting =20
sensing =5
feeling =6
thinking =6
N-F-T-S = iNfj, iNfp, eNfp, eNfj
F-N-S-T = inFp, inFj, enFj, enFp
N-T-F-S = iNtj, iNtp, eNtp, eNtj
T-N-S-F = inTp, enTj, inTj, enTp
S-F-T-N = iSfj, eSfp, iSfp, eSfj
T-S-N-F = isTp, esTj, isTj, esTp
S-T-F-N = iStj, eStp, iStp, eStj
F-S-N-T = isFp, esFj, isFj, esFp

10. So...

I scored:
N: 19
F: 11
T: 4
S: 3

Of the NFTS types offered, eNfp fits... and since our Dominant function is Ne... that annoying and somewhat condescending-sounding quiz told me NOTHING.

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