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    Quote Originally Posted by laintpe View Post
    1.

    a. I am drawn away from excessive solitude.
    b. I am drawn away from excessive interaction.

    2.

    a. I care strongly whether things are ethically wrong or right.
    b. I easily pick up on nuance and subtlety, and explore possibilities.
    c. I am keenly aware of details, and of my physical environment.
    d. I can tell you whether things are true or false, based on logic and my knowledge. sometimes

    3A. Only answer if you chose a or d for question 2!

    a. I easily pick up on nuance and subtletly, and explore possibilities.
    b. I am keenly aware of details, and of my physical environment.

    3B. Only answer if you chose b or c for question 2!

    c. I care strongly whether things are ethically wrong or right.
    d. I can tell you whether things are true or false, based on logic and my knowledge.

    4.

    a. I approach things with a plan.
    b. I handle things as they come.

    5.

    a. I am usually sympathetic.
    b. I am usually logical.

    6.

    a. After several hours in a group of four or more people, I may become uncomfortable.
    b. After several hours alone, I may become uncomfortable.

    7.

    a. I prefer concrete facts.
    b. I prefer theoretical possibilities.


    yeah, i didn't follow the rules.
    Well, being that the extra question you answered is only extraneous, and doesn't affect the result, you scored a solid INTP.

    Quote Originally Posted by untypable View Post
    d. I can tell you whether things are true or false, based on logic and my knowledge.

    Here this one, i find that this question is debatable.

    Given that I am a perciever, I do not believe things have a definite right and wrong answer, and human knowledge had not reach an extent that we can find clear right wrong answers to everyyhing, (except perhaps in mathematics)

    But i know this question is a thinker feeler question.

    I am usually logical.

    what is logical , waht is not logical?

    one person's logic can be another person's BS. logic itself is highly subjective.

    But i am not very sympathetic either, I can be a hardass if i chose to be one.
    A few have had similar objections, and I have to wonder what kind of test you do like...Brain biopsy?

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    Would be interesting to trial this double blind. We need some volunteers who know nothing of MBTI who can do this, and then an accredited or at least more traditional test.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoff View Post
    Would be interesting to trial this double blind. We need some volunteers who know nothing of MBTI who can do this, and then an accredited or at least more traditional test.
    Let's do that! *waits for someone else to do it*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flak View Post
    For the record, if she picked 2a, she didn't get T-anything on the test.
    ISxJ then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoff View Post
    Would be interesting to trial this double blind. We need some volunteers who know nothing of MBTI who can do this, and then an accredited or at least more traditional test.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flak View Post
    Let's do that! *waits for someone else to do it*
    It's not double blind but I got some of my staff to do it (although untested I know their type through managing them and socialising with them for a number of years). I than gave them Best Fit Type descriptions of the type I believe them to be with another close type to compare to and say if either was them.

    No 1: I say is ISFJ - Results say xNFx
    1. a=E
    2. a=FJ
    3. a=N
    4. b=P
    5. a=F
    6. a=I
    7. b=N
    After reading ISFJ and INFJ she said the first one suited her.

    No 2: I say is ISTJ - Results say xSxx
    1. b=I
    2. c=SP <-- there is no response here suitable for her as an ISTJ, she really struggled with this question
    3. d=T
    4. a=J
    5. a=F
    6. b=E
    7. a=S

    No 3: I say is ISTP - Results say xSxx
    1. b=I
    2. c=SP
    3. c=F
    4. a=J
    5. b=T
    6. b=E
    7. a=S

    Another xSTJ refused do it as she couldn't understand the questions.

    EDIT: She changed her mind and decided to do it, scored as xSTx
    1. a=E
    2. c=SP
    3. d=T
    4. a=J
    5. b=T
    6. a=I
    7. a=S


    Conclusion: Questions are confusing and ambiguous for people without knowledge of MBTI.
    Last edited by Kasper; 01-15-2009 at 11:55 PM. Reason: add results

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    I have no questions, Trinity, only answers.

    Now, what's this about my test? I do find it a bit silly that none of them could score a solid E or I, when both selectors are almost the same. It's like they're trying not to fit into a mold, which is a common, annoying, human trait.

    That's why people don't take tests well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flak View Post
    I have no questions, Trinity, only answers.

    Now, what's this about my test?
    I have no answers

    The wording for most people on this site makes sense as we understand where you're going with it. The girl who refused to do it got caught up on the first question saying sometimes she likes solitude, sometimes she likes people and even after I told her just go with what is truer for you most of the time she refused to go any further, she said it was too confusing and her SJness refused to get past the wording as it didn't make sense to her.

    I think the issue with IvE which should be reasonably straight forward like you suggested (and I was surprised it wasnít) is the S influence, they all like being around people and enjoy socialising but they don't necessarily enjoy large groups and will blend into the background. The two SJs are very withdrawn introverts but make the perfect hosts and enjoy that kind of thing. The SP always wants to do things with others, ISxPs can often appear extraverted for this reason.

    I was surprised that their results were so unclear but they were confused.

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    I'm thinking that especially when dealing with sensors, the personal desire to take the test is essential.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flak View Post
    I'm thinking that especially when dealing with sensors, the personal desire to take the test is essential.
    Q1. Did you want to take this test? Really? Or did someone talk you into it.

    Y. Intuitive.
    N. Sensor.

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    8: Did you receive more than one null result?
    a. No, I know myself.
    b. Yes, I fail at me.

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