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    So what's more important, repelling SPs and FJs or attracting TJs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haphazard View Post
    So what's more important, repelling SPs and FJs or attracting TJs?
    They are of precisely equal importance. It's a tightrope, which is why suggestions have to be weighed carefully.

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    2d. I can tell you whether something is true or false, based on my acquired knowledge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flak View Post
    2d. I can tell you whether something is true or false, based on my acquired knowledge.

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    NTJs are still going to fall through that crack, and SPs may pick it.

    Also, are you implying a vast, encyclopedia-like knowledge? Because I know plenty of INTPs who are like that, too, but I've never seen a single NTJ like that.

    Also, going on prior knowledge, it'd be pretty easy to tell whether something is 'true or false.' This is like asking whether you know the first president of the United States. Anyone can do that, however being 'concerned' with nuance or ethics are particular. This is like a non-answer.
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    I wish there were a better way to characterize "using logic and evidence" without falling into the trap of making it sound like if you don't choose it, then you must not be intelligent. Maybe something that more fundamentally describes the process, without actually mentioning the words "logic", "rational", "reason", "knowledge" or "evidence". I will think about it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flak View Post
    2d. I can tell you whether something is true or false, based on my acquired knowledge.

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    That's probably the best wording you can find. The deeper problem is that you've set answers against each other that are totally independent.

    IMO, all tests are going to be severely lacking unless they test independent functions independently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haphazard View Post
    NTJs are still going to fall through that crack, and SPs may pick it.

    Also, are you implying a vast, encyclopedia-like knowledge? Because I know plenty of INTPs who are like that, too, but I've never seen a single NTJ like that.
    You're considering each answer as if it were in isolation. There are three other options which have to sound worse.

    Quote Originally Posted by dissonance View Post
    That's probably the best wording you can find. The deeper problem is that you've set answers against each other that are totally independent.

    IMO, all tests are going to be severely lacking unless they test independent functions independently.
    I know what you're getting at, and some people will obviously have a hard time deciding. But I took this into account, because I think more often than not, the people who come up with X results are the same people who will receive an improper type result from existing tests.

    I could have made this a lot easier to make decisions in, but that wasn't the intention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flak View Post
    You're considering each question as if it were in isolation. There are three other options which have to sound worse.
    A. I can tell you my precise position on abortion and complex reasons why
    B. I can give eighty different hypothetical situations based on the prompt of a soda can
    C. I can catch bullets in my teeth
    D. I can count to five

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haphazard View Post
    A. I can tell you my precise position on abortion
    B. I can give eighty different hypothetical situations based on the prompt of a soda can
    C. I can catch bullets in my teeth
    D. I can count to five

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    D is truest for me. Easy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flak View Post
    D is truest for me. Easy.
    Then you're a TJ type, obviously.
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