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    Quote Originally Posted by Falcarius View Post
    Is this your way of telling me that I can't be a J as I never read instructions because I am too lazy?
    Eh, somethin' like that. I added some clarification to the "instruction manual" though.

    Add: Wording of answers in question 5 changed from "I am nearly always..." to "I always make an effort to be..."

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    1 b I
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    5 b T
    6 a I
    7 b N


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flak View Post
    Oh, let's get personal, shall we. "You failed to self-assess properly. My test was just sitting there, and you screwed it up yourself."

    What were your individual answers?
    I'm not being personal, you dork! (that was personal - see the difference?)

    Why are you being so defensive? The validity of these tests is easy to measure. Repeatability, congruity. Yours FAILS!

    But as usual, you choose to take criticism as a personal attack. You invite it, then you try to shoo it away.

    FAIL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bluemonday View Post
    I'm not being personal you dork! (that was personal - see the difference?)

    Why are you being so defensive? The validity of these tests is easy to measure. Repeatability, congruity. Yours FAILS!

    But as usual, you chose to take criticism as a personal attack. You invite it, then you try to shoo it away.

    FAIL.
    It worked perfectly for me. Under your measure for success or failure, the test succeeds. If you think it didn't work, post your results and your expected type and see where it went wrong. Or maybe you're projecting yourself into a type that you aren't, and are getting defensive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JocktheMotie View Post
    It worked perfectly for me. Under your measure for success or failure, the test succeeds. If you think it didn't work, post you're results and your expected type and see where it went wrong. Or maybe you're projecting yourself into a type that you aren't, and are getting defensive.
    Pfft. The testing of tests is for invalidation, not validation. I.e. the failures have more weight than the successes. Don't you know anything?

    As I have already said - I don't like the design. It is designed to fail. Buy a book on psychometric testing 'cos I don't have time to explain it to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bluemonday View Post
    Pfft. The testing of tests is for invalidation, not validation. I.e. the failures have more weight than the successes. Don't you know anything?

    As I have already said - I don't like the design. It is designed to fail. Buy a book on psychometric testing 'cos I don't have time to explain it to you.
    Yes, I am new to typing, maybe that's why the test works better for me because I am not yet conditioned to select certain types of responses.

    However, you keep saying the test fails because you got the wrong type. You should probably post your results and back them up based on reasons why an INTP would select that response based on analysis and your deep understanding of these type tests. Then Flack may be able to clear up the question, or alter the test to be more accurate. You're telling him the test fails without giving any explicative reasons as to why.



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    Quote Originally Posted by JocktheMotie View Post
    Yes, I am new to typing, maybe that's why the test works better for me because I am not yet conditioned to select certain types of responses.

    However, you keep saying the test fails because you got the wrong type. You should probably post your results and back them up based on reasons why an INTP would select that response based on analysis and your deep understanding of these type tests. Then Flack may be able to clear up the question, or alter the test to be more accurate. You're telling him the test fails without giving any explicative reasons as to why.
    I'd rather write my own test than fix his.
    Oh, wait...I don't need to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dissonance View Post
    No, I'm refusing to back down to your bullying.

    All I want is to be counted as a person. It seems pretty clear.
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    1.

    a. I am drawn away from excessive solitude.
    b. I am drawn away from excessive interaction.

    2.

    a. I can instantly tell you whether something is morally wrong or right.
    b. I easily pick up on nuance and subtlety.
    c. I am keenly aware of my physical environment, and of details.
    d. I can instantly tell you whether something is factually true or false.

    3a. Only answer if you chose a or d for question 2!

    a. I easily pick up on nuance and subtlety.
    b. I am keenly aware of my physical environment, and of details.

    3b. Only answer if you chose b or c for question 2!

    c. I can instantly tell you whether something is morally wrong or right.
    d. I can instantly tell you whether something is factually true or false.

    4.

    a. I value order, and I follow plans.
    b. I can accept disorder, and I value spontaneity.


    5.

    a. I always make an effort to be sympathetic.
    b. I always make an effort to be correct.

    6.

    a. After several hours in a group, I may become uncomfortable.
    b. After several hours alone, I may become uncomfortable.

    7.

    a. I prefer hard facts.
    b. I prefer generalities.


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    4 and 5 are tough ones for me. 4- I value order (and am quite orderly) as well as spontaneity (example - while traveling and in free time, I'm quite spontaneous. In comparison to my uber-J friend, I'm a total P). 5-It's really a tie between the two. I try to be sympathetic to people, even if in some cases I'm somewhat faking the sympathy, but I also have a strong drive to be accurate/correct in what I say.
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    1.

    a. I am drawn away from excessive solitude.
    b. I am drawn away from excessive interaction.

    2.

    a. I can instantly tell you whether something is morally wrong or right.
    b. I easily pick up on nuance and subtlety.
    c. I am keenly aware of my physical environment, and of details.
    d. I can instantly tell you whether something is factually true or false.

    3a. Only answer if you chose a or d for question 2!

    a. I easily pick up on nuance and subtlety.
    b. I am keenly aware of my physical environment, and of details.

    3b. Only answer if you chose b or c for question 2!

    c. I can instantly tell you whether something is morally wrong or right.
    d. I can instantly tell you whether something is factually true or false.

    4.

    a. I value order, and I follow plans.
    b. I can accept disorder, and I value spontaneity.

    5.

    a. I always make an effort to be sympathetic.
    b. I always make an effort to be correct.

    6.

    a. After several hours in a group, I may become uncomfortable.
    b. After several hours alone, I may become uncomfortable.

    7.

    a. I prefer hard facts.
    b. I prefer generalities.



    1.b=I
    2. b=NP
    3. d=T
    4. a=J AND b=P
    5. b=T
    6. a=I
    7. b=N

    INTp- I usually test weak P, so this result makes sense. Question 4 has the same problem I have found with most personality typing tests -- Mixing what people value with what they do. I really value order and planning, but in practice I am not very orderly. I don't place a particularly high value on spontaneity, but I am somewhat spontaneous.
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