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Old 06-29-2007, 04:43 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Well, I'm sure people have thought of some that couldn't go in the other threads. Probably would be good if people give a short description of the people they propose, cos we haven't all studied the same stuff

I'll start with Peter Abelard, who I'm guessing as ENTP. He was arguably the most influential and revolutionary free-thinker of the Middle Ages, the father of the scholastic method, often dubbed "The Plato of the North", ironically more famous for his love affair with Heloise than all the much more awesome stuff he did.

EDIT - I also think Hildegard von Bingen was ENTP as well.

It'll be interesting to see how many non-scientist NT's and non-spiritual NF's we can think of, though this isn't a rule or aim of the thread by any means!
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Leonardo DaVinci, ENTP

Alfred Hitchcock, ENTP

Stanley Kubrick, INTJ

Glenn Gould, INTJ

Ludwig van Beethoven, ENTP

C.S. Lewis, INTJ

Ray Harryhausen, ENTP

Dick Cheney, ENTJ (and as far as I'm concerned, he should have been dead a long time ago)
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John Calvin - INTJ
Martin Luther - XNTP
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Georgia O'Keeffe, INTP

Johann Gutenberg, ENTP

Arthur Schopenhauer, INTJ

Immanuel Kant, INTJ

Thomas Hobbes, INTJ

Rene Descartes, INTP

Niccolò Machiavelli, ENTJ

Dante Alighieri, INTJ

Jeffrey Dahmer, ENTP

Heinrich Himmler, ENTJ

Bill Nye the Science Guy, ENTP

Howard Hughes, ENTP

Fritz Lang, ENTP

Osama bin Laden, INTJ

Richard Nixon, ENTJ

John F. Kennedy, ENTP
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Corrections.

Arthur Schopenhauer was an INFJ. (I could explain to you why I think so based on my readings of his biography and the way his personality in his writings suggested this. Yes, unlike most philosophers his philosophy was fully imbued in its authors personality. Many of his doctrines could have been made in an optimistic or a neutral attitude, and none of his ideas necessitate pessimism, he was just imposing his feelings onto the readers)


Machiavelli seemed like a quintissential ENTP. He had a detached and an impersonal outlook on life, and most of all he had great awareness of his environment. He also knew how to manipulate complex social systems and suggested being very adaptable, a chameleon he was indeed. Machiavelli, both as a writer and as a person had a very informative communication style, not directive.


Dante, I'd argue was also an INFJ. In short, his feelings preceeded his dispassionate thought and relationships played a more important role in his life than pursuit of whateve impersonal goals he had.


Parmenides-INTP
Heraclitus-INTJ
Socrates-INTP
Spinoza-INTP
Leibniz-INTP
Aristotle-INTP
Marx-INTP
Einstein-INTP
Newton-INTP
Galileo-INTP
Darwin-INTP
Copernicus-INTP
Locke-INTJ
Nietzsche-INTJ
Hobbes-INTJ
Napoleon Bonaparte-ENTJ
Alexander the Great-ENTJ(although type logic reports he was an ENTP, but I don't buy it)
Ayn Rand-INTJ
David Hume-ENTP
de Voltaire-ENTP
Bertrand Russell-ENTP
Karl Popper-INTJ
Bill Gates-ENTP

*EDIT:Richard Wagner-ENTJ(thanks Uberfuhrer)
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I think Bill Gates is an ENTJ.

I had trouble typing O'Keeffe, but her artwork definitely seems NT-like.

And I highly doubt that Thomas Hobbes was an ESTJ like Keirsey states.
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Not sure about Bill Gates. I am thinking probably ENTP.. he seems to be a very unsystematic thinker and has a laid back approach to life..perhaps too unconventional to be an ENTJ (Te relies on the external standard a lot)..and he doesnt seem to have a TJ-like directive nature of communication..

Hobbes was likely an INTJ..
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I don't think Beethovan was ENTP. Seems more INTJ to me... or some kind of J, for sure.

I think Martin Luther was a J was well.
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What about Richard Wagner? ENTJ perhaps?
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Wace, 12th century author of Roman de Rou and Roman de Brut, two early French epics, I believe to have been INTP.

St Thomas Aquinas - INTJ ?
St Augustine of Hippo - xNTP
St Thomas More - ENTP
The Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) - ENTJ
Ibn Rushd (known in Europe as Averroes - great Islamic philosopher who had a big influence on the scholastic 12th century Renaissance, greatest work IMO being Tahafut al-Tahafut or "The Incoherence of the Incoherence", in retaliation against Al-Ghazali's Incoherence of the Philosophers) - ENTP
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