Go Back   Typology Central > The Commune > The NT Rationale

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-12-2008, 09:48 PM   #11 (permalink)
Member
 
sleeptowin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Type: INTJ
Location: a village
Posts: 49
sleeptowin is unique just like everyone else
Default

It happends.

When it happends I just try to take that feeling as it is and walk through it, if you know what I mean. In my case, I know that there usually is a reason for me feeling that way, when I'm feeling that way. I try to find out what might be troubling me, and if I find the reason, well, the bad feeling just kinda recedes and becomes manageable. If I for some reason can't find a reason, for instance, because I'm too troubled to think clearly, I just ride it through. I guess that, at that point, I tell my self that there is no point in bothering one self too much with things that doesn't make any sense.

I don't know if I made any sense right now, but, well, there you have it, my way of dealing with it.
__________________
I take no responsibility for my awful english.
sleeptowin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-2008, 10:05 PM   #12 (permalink)
Content. Content?
 
DigitalMethod's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Type: INTJ
Posts: 978
DigitalMethod is unique just like everyone else
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by sleeptowin View Post
It happends.

When it happends I just try to take that feeling as it is and walk through it, if you know what I mean. In my case, I know that there usually is a reason for me feeling that way, when I'm feeling that way. I try to find out what might be troubling me, and if I find the reason, well, the bad feeling just kinda recedes and becomes manageable. If I for some reason can't find a reason, for instance, because I'm too troubled to think clearly, I just ride it through. I guess that, at that point, I tell my self that there is no point in bothering one self too much with things that doesn't make any sense.

I don't know if I made any sense right now, but, well, there you have it, my way of dealing with it.
No, it made complete sense to me.

I just don't want to go through this feeling because I just felt it two months ago.

And I also am having trouble rationalizing it without telling myself I'm over-reacting. But you can't tell yourself "You're over-reacting" when it's past a certain pain 'threshold' or pain 'level'. If that makes sense?
__________________
"The life of the individual has meaning only insofar as it aids in making the life of every living thing nobler and more beautiful."
- Albert Einstein
DigitalMethod is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-2008, 10:31 PM   #13 (permalink)
Member
 
sleeptowin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Type: INTJ
Location: a village
Posts: 49
sleeptowin is unique just like everyone else
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DigitalMethod View Post
No, it made complete sense to me.

I just don't want to go through this feeling because I just felt it two months ago.

And I also am having trouble rationalizing it without telling myself I'm over-reacting. But you can't tell yourself "You're over-reacting" when it's past a certain pain 'threshold' or pain 'level'. If that makes sense?
Yes, I think I know what you mean. When you're at that point, from my experience, the only thing you can really do is to ride it out, and try to avoid to think about it as much as you can.

But these are just words on the interwebs, in reality, it's not easy, it's not a problem that you can always fix, it's a/several pain(s) in the ass(es) emotion(s) that you run in to from time to time, and they're bound to return, from time to time, unfortunately.

Problems, in all of it's shapes, sometimes have that nasty character.

(My problem now is that I fear that I might have misunderstood what you wrote earlier )
__________________
I take no responsibility for my awful english.
sleeptowin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-2008, 10:40 PM   #14 (permalink)
Content. Content?
 
DigitalMethod's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Type: INTJ
Posts: 978
DigitalMethod is unique just like everyone else
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by sleeptowin View Post
(My problem now is that I fear that I might have misunderstood what you wrote earlier )
Don't worry what you said earlier directly related to me and was positive. And what you just said also.

Thanks.
__________________
"The life of the individual has meaning only insofar as it aids in making the life of every living thing nobler and more beautiful."
- Albert Einstein
DigitalMethod is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-2008, 10:46 PM   #15 (permalink)
Member
 
sleeptowin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Type: INTJ
Location: a village
Posts: 49
sleeptowin is unique just like everyone else
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DigitalMethod View Post
Don't worry what you said earlier directly related to me and was positive. And what you just said also.

Thanks.
no problem.
__________________
I take no responsibility for my awful english.
sleeptowin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-2008, 11:29 PM   #16 (permalink)
Lisse
 
Dwigie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Type: INFP
Location: nulle part
Posts: 652
Dwigie is unique just like everyone else
Default

Did you see, hear or "sensed" anything that made you remember something unpleasant.
Or maybe it's just one those very crappy days. How long did it last the previous time?
__________________
"
Dwigie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-2008, 11:42 PM   #17 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Anja's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Type: INFP
Location: Mankato, MN
Posts: 3,005
Anja has disabled reputation
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DigitalMethod View Post


Yet how is it ever fixed when one never learns the problem.

You don't always need to know what causes an emotional problem in order to fix it, if that helps.

As blanclait mentions, it can become a habit, this pining thing. Suppose you could call it existential grief.

"It is the blight man was born for
It is (self) that you mourn for."

Gerard Manly Hopkins. "To Margaret, Spring and Fall."

I am susceptible to this and take some effort to avoid in engaging it for any length of time.
__________________
"No ray of sunshine is ever lost, but the green which it awakes into existence needs time to sprout, and it is not always granted to the sower to see the harvest. All work that is worth anything is done in faith." - Albert Schweitzer
Anja is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-2008, 11:54 PM   #18 (permalink)
Content. Content?
 
DigitalMethod's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Type: INTJ
Posts: 978
DigitalMethod is unique just like everyone else
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dwigie View Post
Did you see, hear or "sensed" anything that made you remember something unpleasant.
Or maybe it's just one those very crappy days. How long did it last the previous time?
Well this would depend on one's definition of 'sensed'.

'Sense' to me is basically like saying "I think something happened" IE, sense is a combination of all the senses including intuition.

So according to my definition of sense, I did sense something that happened which triggered past feelings on a similar matter. Which were in turn amplified due to... the... more, meaningful depth that I currently have on this present matter. IE the present matter means more to me than the past one did at it's time of occurrence.

This time I was able to rationalize it faster due to past experiences and good advice, also a lucky enlightening moment. Even though it was only about two days this time, the depth of pain was more intense than last time (due to it's more meaningful depth). Last time it was more drawn out over a week's time.
__________________
"The life of the individual has meaning only insofar as it aids in making the life of every living thing nobler and more beautiful."
- Albert Einstein
DigitalMethod is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-13-2008, 03:35 AM   #19 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Anja's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Type: INFP
Location: Mankato, MN
Posts: 3,005
Anja has disabled reputation
Default

It's possible to never know the cause but the symptoms can still be managed. Sounds like this is what you're doing.

Should it be persistent over time, it would be worth getting additional help from someone who could approach it from a clinical perspective.
__________________
"No ray of sunshine is ever lost, but the green which it awakes into existence needs time to sprout, and it is not always granted to the sower to see the harvest. All work that is worth anything is done in faith." - Albert Schweitzer
Anja is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-13-2008, 03:50 AM   #20 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Bella's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Type: ISTJ
Location: South African in the USA
Posts: 1,560
Bella is unique just like everyone else
Default

I don't think you can escape it in this world. I'm learning more and more to not even bother asking why I'm feeling miserable, just get on with it, despite how you feel.
__________________
yesiknowimamiserablegrouchnowgoawayovmeleor

It's Mizzz ST, thank you...
Bella is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Are INFPs "sexy"? spacecadette The NF Idyllic 282 06-10-2009 02:55 PM
INFPs, is that you? Tayshaun The NF Idyllic 38 12-10-2008 06:00 AM
ENFJ profile SolitaryWalker The NF Idyllic 30 06-03-2008 01:55 AM
ENTJ Profile SolitaryWalker The NT Rationale 9 05-24-2008 09:03 PM
Essence of Feeling SolitaryWalker The NF Idyllic 16 04-20-2008 10:20 PM


All times are GMT. The time now is 07:05 AM.


Donate via Paypal
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.1.0