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My termites win
Join Date: Aug 2007
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In high-school and college, I vastly preferred explaining homework solutions to other people than doing my own homework. The knowledge I guard from others is the knowledge I am (or will be) obligated to protect by contract. Quote:
Knowledge belongs to the person who knows. This is simply tautology. I don't know if sharing knowledge is showing someone my soul. But perhaps the enthusiasm with some knowledge is shared is. I would hide knowledge if I were required to by IP laws. I gained knowledge in various ways, including: experience, thought, guided experiment, practice, insight, reading, observing, clarifying, and yes by teaching also.
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Type: INTP
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Ignorant people are dangerous, but you disarm them by winning them over to your side through education. Why do you think God wants everyone to be intelligent? |
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Type: TiNe
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I'm very generous. I love to share ideas and inform people of any and all fascinating concepts. I am considering teaching Medical Biology at the graduate level when I'm finished with school, etc.
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Join Date: Jul 2007
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I usually focus on trying to get to know a person first, and if they ask my opinion on something then I usually explain my thought process. After a while people who like that sort of thing realize I am knowledgable about a lot of things and start asking my opinion about more things. Basically I try to start off slow and let the process snowball.
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Join Date: Jul 2008
Type: INTJ
Location: just outside Washington DC
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Philosophically, I am very much in favor of the idea of sharing knowledge. In practice though I am not so good at getting my thoughts accross to other people. I have been working on the and I think I am getting better at it, but it still takes quite a bit of effort.
I would not deliberately withhold knowledge from someone unless they were particularly nasty to me. However, since it does take time and effort for me to give an explaination I would like to know that it would at least be something the person is interested in knowing. Most people aren't interested in knowing the process of how I made something. Most people are not interested in the types of books I read. If I start to share this information in the course of normal conversation people often look a little board. I also identify with the problem of being accused of arogant for sharing information. Also it can be concidered rude to correct someone, especially if it is some stranger we overhear giving wrong information. I also have some problems with the knowledge v. sympathy thing. I had an experience from a co-worker who was always coming to me telling about how stressed she was. I shared my knowledge with her of different relaxation techniques, but she always left seeming annoyed. I was very puzzled until someone explained that she didn't want advice, she wanted sympathy. Not only was my advice unwanted, I am looked down on for giving advice instead of sympathy. So I am a little cautious sometimes in giving out information, unless it is wanted. Ilah |
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Join Date: Jun 2008
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Why is knowledge a persuit? I personally don't like to share my knowledge for the fact that I believe I may somehow create a bias in someones interpretation. I like to observe how people interperate because it shows me the depths of who they are. Likewise I think that people knowing how I think can lead to misinterpretations as to who I am so I keep my knowledge on lock down to avoid sharing too much about my real views. Then I got to thinking about how knowledge is earned not just given. To expand my own I really have to pry sometimes. Knowledge is not easilly attainable. Look at colleges and how much they charge for education. Even on the forum here it seems that you only get imput if someone is trying to help or sway you, but little knowledge is given for the sake of being given. Why is knowledge that so many people posess a comodity. Would not the world do betting in having all resouces given. It truely is a persuit that many have to work hard to attain. That really hinders what we are capable of. But then I wonder if ignorance is bliss and how people who are not spiritual alter their actions for the sake of knowledge as much as people alter their actions for the sake of god, giving knowledge the same sacred respect that people give to spiritual icons. I wonder the value of the two. Just thinking |
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So. Would you say something more about this?
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Winning someone over is a form of manipulation. I'm not so sure my "truth" is the truth...I possibly could be instilling a more complex set of lies. Ignorant people tend to be the happiest. Lighting things on fire/smashing things to bits can be quite cathartic. Why would I want them to be more miserable? Half the people in this country are on meds to make them "stupider"....my selfishness is saving the others money. This is my inadvertent contribution to our species. I was joking about "god" wanting anything.......people want things. If God exists, it already has everything.
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Join Date: Jul 2008
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I think the bias aspect is what Jack Flak was hinting at and I understand that aspect fully. I think though that there needs to be sort of a mutual understanding that there is equal footing so to speak(no dismisal based purely on jealousy or perceived stupidity), that is easier said than done and it is hard to find people like that.
I think though when you are in a situation such as this, the willingness to share some of what you think may be "biased" knowledge is much greater because you value and don't necessarily forcefully try and change someones interpretation. You also trust that there will be more a mutual exchange of knowledge and insight and have a sense of striving towards something higher like actually "understanding" something instead of making arbitrary judgments/conclusions. In terms of why it seems that a lot of this knowledge is guarded I would have to say that is more a case of an "open mindedness" barrier. I maybe should have sort of prefaced this by saying I am talking more on a 1 v 1 basis rather than a more collective or group/community oriented way. I think generally though I sort of understand where you are coming from, I think just observing and seeing someones thought processes for what it is and benefiting from that without having an intention of altering it is a pleasure we should all have the opportunity to have. Many of us however have seen how many barriers there are IRL that sort of deter us from being as open.
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