How do ENTJs become likeable and less threatening to others? - Page 6

Jennifer · 10-06-2008, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Santtu

...So, should they declare a "hostility is good" ENTJ manifesto, don't count on me for any support.

I thought it was amusing you even felt the need to definitively state this without direct stimulus.

I might think it but would not have bothered unless someone (probably an ENTJ) was putting pressure on me or trying to dominate me directly.

Do you know how I am learning to deal with ENTJ verbal domination, at least where they have no actual power over me? I just shrug and ignore them, although i glean what I can from the information they give to help my internal models improve. Some of the ones here have thrown their weight around, but it's all smoke and mirrors.

Santtu · 10-06-2008, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Jennifer

I thought it was amusing you even felt the need to definitively state this without direct stimulus.

Just glance at some Lucifer's writings, juggle a few thoughts around, and there you have it

I'm just ahead of the game, no need for me to wait it become direct

Jennifer · 10-06-2008, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Santtu

Just glance at some Lucifer's writings, juggle a few thoughts around, and there you have it

So you're saying the devil made you do it?

ajblaise · 10-06-2008, 01:38 PM

I've known some ENTJ's. When they get more secure with themselves and their environment and mature, they tend to chill out a little and get less overbearing and annoying.

INTJMom · 10-06-2008, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Jennifer

So you're saying the devil made you do it?

Chris_in_Orbit · 10-06-2008, 02:28 PM

My psychology teacher tested as an ENTJ. There are few people I respect more than her.

YourLocalJesus · 10-06-2008, 02:52 PM

Trust me, i'm a lazy bastard most of the time, too. ^^ I just think a lot in my lazy state, and then suddenly burst into action. I'm the kind of person who can do a weeks studies in five or six hours if I get to be alone and concentrate. I could never, ever maintain that speed for an entire day, but it means that I can spend more time doing things that I like, so it's a thing that have evolved over time.

ptgatsby · 10-06-2008, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ajblaise

I've known some ENTJ's. When they get more secure with themselves and their environment and mature, they tend to chill out a little and get less overbearing and annoying.

Heh, "everyone grows up"... "Well, almost everyone".

"ENTJs are natural born leaders" - that is the stereotype, but it really means that they like "leading". The problem is, leadership isn't really about directing people around, which is the tendency for young "leaders" to take on. It takes time, development, skills and experience to become a good leader. Then ENTJs are 'less overbearing and annoying", IMO. When you feel the need to lead but don't know how, it causes a lot of strife...

FDG · 10-06-2008, 04:07 PM

Leadership is boring. It's a lot harder and tougher (albeit not necessarily smarter) to chase your dreams all by yourself.

IlyaK1986 · 10-06-2008, 04:20 PM

If you're an ENTJ, that's a license to dominate. Someone's gonna do it eventually--and we're the ones cut out for it. You might not necessarily have to be completely overt about it, but so long as you get done the shit you need to get done, then the ends justify the means.

Human emotion should not be used for rational decision making, just like you shouldn't think about maximizing utility during sex but just do what feels right.

10-06-2008, 02:52 PM	#57 (permalink)
YourLocalJesus Silence the discord Join Date: Jul 2007 Type: eNtj Location: Where Posts: 1,944	Trust me, i'm a lazy bastard most of the time, too. ^^ I just think a lot in my lazy state, and then suddenly burst into action. I'm the kind of person who can do a weeks studies in five or six hours if I get to be alone and concentrate. I could never, ever maintain that speed for an entire day, but it means that I can spend more time doing things that I like, so it's a thing that have evolved over time. __________________ I am not Christ or a philanthropist, old lady, I am all the contrary of a Christ.... I fight for the things I believe in, with all the weapons at my disposal and try to leave the other man dead so that I don't get nailed to a cross or any other place.

10-06-2008, 04:07 PM	#59 (permalink)
FDG Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Type: ENTJ Location: Treviso, Veneto, Italy Posts: 1,814	Leadership is boring. It's a lot harder and tougher (albeit not necessarily smarter) to chase your dreams all by yourself. __________________ ENTj 7-3-8 sx/sp

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ajblaise Stealing your stem cells Join Date: Aug 2008 Type: INTP Location: New York Posts: 4,364	I've known some ENTJ's. When they get more secure with themselves and their environment and mature, they tend to chill out a little and get less overbearing and annoying.

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10-06-2008, 04:20 PM	#60 (permalink)
IlyaK1986 Banned Join Date: Aug 2008 Type: ENTJ Posts: 394	If you're an ENTJ, that's a license to dominate. Someone's gonna do it eventually--and we're the ones cut out for it. You might not necessarily have to be completely overt about it, but so long as you get done the shit you need to get done, then the ends justify the means. Human emotion should not be used for rational decision making, just like you shouldn't think about maximizing utility during sex but just do what feels right.