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Old 06-20-2007, 02:15 PM   #101 (permalink)
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Actually, what usually happened is that the Feeler hones in on the word "wasted" (see my quote) that I let slip out in frustration -- "What do you mean WASTING your time??? You consider this marriage/friendship to be WASTING your time? Why did you ever marry/befriend me if you just thought you were WASTING your life!!!!!??? I hate you! Go away! I don't know why I thought I could ever talk to you about the things that matter to me!"

Grrrrrr.....

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#5 Reason. Typecast as the RB/HB [Ruthless Bastard / Heartless Bitch].
Sorry but I have to disagree there. That's a reason why everyone else sucks when dealing with INTs. See now I didn't notice a single problem with your rant because I read it in context of you being annoyed. This is an NT thing and something that most if not all people miss, except those familiar with it. Honestly that wouldn't have bothered me in the slightest. In fact I'd probably stop being pissed at you instantly at that and cheer up.

Funny how people can read sarcasm but only if you do it in a sarcastic tone. Oh and is being sardonic "sardony"?

Hmm divergance again. Damn your plague today!!
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Old 06-20-2007, 02:18 PM   #102 (permalink)
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Let's see if the NFs play along, though, before we get too excited about it.
I do want to play along but you all sent a Noob to do the job . Where is MacGuffin when you need him?!?
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Old 06-20-2007, 02:24 PM   #103 (permalink)
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Sorry but I have to disagree there.
Disagree with what? That Feelers tend to respond that way?

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See now I didn't notice a single problem with your rant because I read it in context of you being annoyed. This is an NT thing and something that most if not all people miss, except those familiar with it. Honestly that wouldn't have bothered me in the slightest. In fact I'd probably stop being pissed at you instantly at that and cheer up.
Good. Because that's what it would have been.

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Funny how people can read sarcasm but only if you do it in a sarcastic tone.
I know, I know... I have to stop the "dry sarcasm" around people who aren't expecting it. Sometimes they take me straight-forward and then get ticked, where I was just joking or being whimsical.

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Oh and is being sardonic "sardony"?
To quote that world-renown sage Madonna, "It makes my bottom hurt just by thinking about it."

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Hmm divergance again. Damn your plague today!!


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Old 06-20-2007, 02:39 PM   #104 (permalink)
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Disagree with what? That Feelers tend to respond that way?
NO..that its a reason why NTs suck..
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Good. Because that's what it would have been.
Exactly so it's more to do with others suckage than with your own.. capisce.
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I know, I know... I have to stop the "dry sarcasm" around people who aren't expecting it. Sometimes they take me straight-forward and then get ticked, where I was just joking or being whimsical.
You should see some of the people I know. They are now reduced to assuming I'm being sarcastic/ sardonic unless there is evidence to the contrary. It's the only way they survive
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To quote that world-renown sage Madonna, "It makes my bottom hurt just by thinking about it."
Sage? No it's different herbs used in that embalming process. You gotta wonder though when they're going to put the tape over her mouth though. It's gotta be worth a national holiday or six.
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Sorry, Charlie, I think you're the common link here!
I need a halti for my brain.... ooo a new sig me thinks. Damn it I've done it again!!!
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Old 06-20-2007, 06:02 PM   #105 (permalink)
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1. They are often so focused on the discussion and the subtext of the discussion that they completely miss the sub-subtext and the sub-sub-subtext of the discussion. Particular irl face-to-face conversation.

2. They don't actually believe that the faults they are most often accused of (arrogance, coldness, lack of empathy) are genuine faults. In fact, they consider these to be strengths. Thus they typically don't consider their types to have any real weaknesses.

3. They often make terrible parents. The implicit (if not explicit) demand for competence from their offspring undermines the perceived unconditionality of their love, which is bolstered by the famous INT difficulty in expressing affection in direct ways. This is especially damaging to the perceived self-worth of young offspring, and fosters all kinds of insecurity. This might be compensated for if the INT believed that coldness is actually a fault but, alas, they usually don't.
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Old 06-20-2007, 06:31 PM   #106 (permalink)
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3. They often make terrible parents. The implicit (if not explicit) demand for competence from their offspring undermines the perceived unconditionality of their love, which is bolstered by the famous INT difficulty in expressing affection in direct ways. This is especially damaging to the perceived self-worth of young offspring, and fosters all kinds of insecurity. This might be compensated for if the INT believed that coldness is actually a fault but, alas, they usually don't.
That's actually something I disagree with. INTPs seem to have a split personality when it comes to kids and families... but it has been shown that for the most part, we make excellent parents. INTJs are a bit more split than INTPs and they can be very vision driven, which makes them a bit worse in certain cases. In both cases, it is the ENTs that seem to have more pressure problems.

(I love #2 though... )
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What exactly is considered "fluffy fun"?
Well, for instance, a lot of the fun on this board comes from puns and wordplay. That is not "fluffy fun". Fluffy fun is more nonsensical and is emotionally pleasant and humorous.
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Old 06-20-2007, 10:09 PM   #108 (permalink)
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Well, for instance, a lot of the fun on this board comes from puns and wordplay. That is not "fluffy fun". Fluffy fun is more nonsensical and is emotionally pleasant and humorous.
What? You don't think wordplay and puns are pleasant and humorous?
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Old 06-20-2007, 10:34 PM   #109 (permalink)
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What? You don't think wordplay and puns are pleasant and humorous?
They are intelligently pleasant and humorous. Not that that's a bad thing- it just ain't fluffy.
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Old 06-20-2007, 10:43 PM   #110 (permalink)
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