INTJ and INTP Comparison - Page 4

CaptainChick · 09-19-2008, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Flak

Too "hardcore" for ya, CC?

Too soft, actually.

entropie · 09-19-2008, 10:52 PM

INTJ talk more shit but INTP do beat it

Jack Flak · 09-19-2008, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by entropie

INTJ talk more shit but INTP do beat it

Yes I see, please continue...

entropie · 09-19-2008, 11:01 PM

I still try to fit the type "imba" into type description, but I just can not bend the letters xD

"?" · 09-21-2008, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by The_Liquid_Laser

Heh, I think of all the "Chart-The-Course" types, the INTJ is the Chart-The-Course-iest. INTJ's can take planning to an obsessive-compulsive level. They seem to have plans and contingencies for even the most trivial of things.

Totally disagree. I think that ISTJ is the poster child for Chart the Course interaction style.

The_Liquid_Laser · 09-21-2008, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by "?"

Totally disagree. I think that ISTJ is the poster child for Chart the Course interaction style.

Why is that?

"?" · 09-21-2008, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Colors

I never understood why certain types are away from their counterparts in this Interaction Styles thing. Why are all the IPs considered "Behind-the-Scenes", except for the ISTP? (And these the Kiersey types INTP and INTJ we're talking of, not the MBTI ones, correct?)

Good question and maybe something that Sarah would like to take a stab at if she finds this thread. But the interaction styles by Berens is based on temperament. Keep in mind that she is a Keirseyan first and foremost, but is the only system that has been able to merge Keirsey/MBTI. The decision to split SP/SJ from ST/SF by Keirsey throws a wrinkle in MBTI enthusiasts well coordinated thougts. If you look at Behind the Scenes you find ISFJ being the only J, as well for ESFJ in Get Things Going. As you allude to ISTP is the only P in Chart the Course as well as ESTP in In Charge. It is the reason that I appreciated Berens theory, after dealing with an INTP boss in real life.

Antisocial one · 09-21-2008, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by The_Liquid_Laser

Heh, I think of all the "Chart-The-Course" types, the INTJ is the Chart-The-Course-iest. INTJ's can take planning to an obsessive-compulsive level. They seem to have plans and contingencies for even the most trivial of things.

You are saying that like it is a bad thing.

"?" · 09-21-2008, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by The_Liquid_Laser

Why is that?

I originally recalled the themes to resonate more with a "Planner" (hence Berens name for ISTJs), however I went back to look at the first person and general descriptions after making my comment. I recant my statement because I can see why INTJ would be considered the epitome of "Chart the Course" types from first couple of paragraphs of each description. As you read further to get an overall theme, the descriptions become chaotic in an attempt to acknowledge INTJ, INFJ, ISTJ and ISTP.

It may be why as ISTP, I seem to resonate more (depending on my usage, or lack thereof, Se) with the "Behind the Scenes" style when using my Ti too much and with the "In Charge" style when my environment forces me into a role of leadership.

Jack Flak · 09-21-2008, 03:35 PM

ISTJs are great at a certain kind of planning. Keirsey and I call it logistical planning.

Boss: "We have X resources. We need Y done, by Tuesday."

ISTJ: "I will plan and report back."

NT, given the same objective: "Well, we need to order Z resources, and I recommend changing this part of the plan, and it will take until Thursday."

09-19-2008, 10:52 PM	#32 (permalink)
entropie Liasion man in Amsterdam Join Date: Apr 2008 Type: entq Location: Bochum, Germany Posts: 5,205	INTJ talk more shit but INTP do beat it __________________ pocket estj Enneagram: 3w4 "Now is the dramatic moment of fate, Watson, when you hear a step upon the stair which is walking into your life, and you know not whether for good or ill." ~Sir Arthur Conan Doyle [Mind.in.a.Box] -------

09-19-2008, 11:01 PM	#34 (permalink)
entropie Liasion man in Amsterdam Join Date: Apr 2008 Type: entq Location: Bochum, Germany Posts: 5,205	I still try to fit the type "imba" into type description, but I just can not bend the letters xD __________________ pocket estj Enneagram: 3w4 "Now is the dramatic moment of fate, Watson, when you hear a step upon the stair which is walking into your life, and you know not whether for good or ill." ~Sir Arthur Conan Doyle [Mind.in.a.Box] -------

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Jack Flak Banned Join Date: Jul 2008 Type: INTP Location: The Everlasting Sky Posts: 9,359	ISTJs are great at a certain kind of planning. Keirsey and I call it logistical planning. Boss: "We have X resources. We need Y done, by Tuesday." ISTJ: "I will plan and report back." NT, given the same objective: "Well, we need to order Z resources, and I recommend changing this part of the plan, and it will take until Thursday."