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09-04-2008, 03:07 PM
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Structured versus Unstructured thoughts
Iq tests, chess game etc are good for people with structured thinking but in which fields is unstructured thinking prefered?? In which situations are structured thoughts preferable and in which the opposite?
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09-04-2008, 03:11 PM
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You need an unstructured mind to see what lies beneath. Too much structure and it all relies upon your origional foundations being correct. The unstructured mind is usually the one to critique the foundations and move things forward... they're rare though.. it takes an epiphany. The structured ones are those who move things forward in the day to day tasks... that don't require imagination
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09-04-2008, 03:11 PM
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there can be creativity in structure. look at a novel for example. creativity, in my mind, can come in structured and unstructured ways.
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09-04-2008, 03:12 PM
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btw if you could, please define what you mean by an unstructured and a structured mind
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09-04-2008, 03:18 PM
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I wasn't clear.
I didn't mean that creativity is random. There is a context. Creativity however looks for new ways of understanding and conceptualizing. As far as the brain is concerned whatever is new to it is unstructured. The structured portion would be anything the brain has learned to understand and do already because it has done it before. |
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09-04-2008, 03:20 PM
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ahhh thank you for clearing that up. ok, we are on the same page now. good call
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09-04-2008, 03:33 PM
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09-04-2008, 03:40 PM
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lol reminds me of discrete mathmatics, that was a fun class
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09-04-2008, 04:07 PM
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An unstructured thought process is best whenever the necessity is to deal with reality in an immediate, raw way.
The first situation that comes to my mind, in which I really needed unstructured thinking (I personally think I'm equally adept (or equally bad) at both modes) was when I was free-climbing. By the way, I don't think IQ tests rely exclusively on structured forms of thinking. At the very least, the visual part does not.
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