How did you become a "J" (INTJ)

BlackOp · 08-19-2008, 05:19 PM

I have read that the "j" in the INTJ is formed/stems from "obscure reasons".

As a child, my father had me boxing for 3 years and then raced motocross for 2. Two very independent and ruthless activities....basically had to rely on my fists and balls. This is where I learned to trust my instincts and gained the confidence to implement them.

Night · 08-19-2008, 05:22 PM

INTx for most of my life.

Post-grad, my J digit became necessary as to facilitate interest in applying/working in a non-academic environment.

Haphazard · 08-19-2008, 08:53 PM

Well, it seemed I had three choices growing up:

Subject myself to the will of the group and get nothing done

Assert myself as leader of the group and order them to do stuff, but because they can't follow goddamned orders, get nothing done

Separate myself from the group and get everything done alone

I evidently chose the last.

nottaprettygal · 08-19-2008, 09:04 PM

Why would the J in an INTJ be formed any differently than other Js? I'm curious as to the reasoning behind the idea.

Nothing weird happened to me. . . apart from Uncle Melvin.

Antisocial one · 08-19-2008, 09:46 PM

In my case I think that playing a lot of strategy games made me so J.

BlackOp · 08-19-2008, 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nottaprettygal

Why would the J in an INTJ be formed any differently than other Js? I'm curious as to the reasoning behind the idea.

If I remember correctly, it had to do with juxtaposing being an introvert with the ability to lead. I admit it is a rather obscure combination. INTJs tend to have confidence though choose to be alone....something along those lines.

entropie · 08-19-2008, 11:14 PM

Thinking that J-ness formed some day in your evolution as a personality makes sense.

But that includes that all of your 4 functions adapted that way. I just cant relate J-ness only to an obscure event that needs you to be tough and school your senses. The change from p to J would include a change in thought also. I badly suck at Te, any strategy games bore the hell out of me.

And furthermore it would need a change from Fe to Fi , that means to loose your good manners in society and become a hopeless romantic for the better part of a definition.

My conclusion would be, I do not think that one event of one certain kind can blend in your J-ness. I think p-ness or J-ness is formed through a chain of events of different kinds.

BlackOp · 08-21-2008, 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by entropie

Thinking that J-ness formed some day in your evolution as a personality makes sense.

But that includes that all of your 4 functions adapted that way. I just cant relate J-ness only to an obscure event that needs you to be tough and school your senses. The change from p to J would include a change in thought also. I badly suck at Te, any strategy games bore the hell out of me.

And furthermore it would need a change from Fe to Fi , that means to loose your good manners in society and become a hopeless romantic for the better part of a definition.

My conclusion would be, I do not think that one event of one certain kind can blend in your J-ness. I think p-ness or J-ness is formed through a chain of events of different kinds.

I tend to agree all elements are in play. I think the "J" may evolve from a series/years of events. The confidence may stem from reducing the successful parts of past experiences and utilizing them in future scenarios. "What works, works"..... You can never rule out good, old-fashioned IQ...there is no substitute for raw genetic processing.

Beat · 08-21-2008, 12:38 AM

No clue.

Turkish_Cats · 08-22-2008, 03:56 PM

Because I have a gift of Ni,so I became J...

08-19-2008, 05:19 PM	#1 (permalink)
BlackOp Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Type: intj Posts: 212	How did you become a "J" (INTJ) I have read that the "j" in the INTJ is formed/stems from "obscure reasons". As a child, my father had me boxing for 3 years and then raced motocross for 2. Two very independent and ruthless activities....basically had to rely on my fists and balls. This is where I learned to trust my instincts and gained the confidence to implement them. __________________ "A species of perfection and fantasy"......

08-19-2008, 08:53 PM	#3 (permalink)
Haphazard Funny how that works... Join Date: Apr 2008 Type: BOOM Posts: 3,047	Well, it seemed I had three choices growing up: Subject myself to the will of the group and get nothing done Assert myself as leader of the group and order them to do stuff, but because they can't follow goddamned orders, get nothing done Separate myself from the group and get everything done alone I evidently chose the last. __________________ Be good and you will be lonesome. -Mark Twain The difference between a J and a P is not capacity for procrastination but rather pride in it.

08-19-2008, 11:14 PM	#7 (permalink)
entropie Liasion man in Amsterdam Join Date: Apr 2008 Type: entq Location: Bochum, Germany Posts: 5,205	Thinking that J-ness formed some day in your evolution as a personality makes sense. But that includes that all of your 4 functions adapted that way. I just cant relate J-ness only to an obscure event that needs you to be tough and school your senses. The change from p to J would include a change in thought also. I badly suck at Te, any strategy games bore the hell out of me. And furthermore it would need a change from Fe to Fi , that means to loose your good manners in society and become a hopeless romantic for the better part of a definition. My conclusion would be, I do not think that one event of one certain kind can blend in your J-ness. I think p-ness or J-ness is formed through a chain of events of different kinds. __________________ pocket estj Enneagram: 3w4 "Now is the dramatic moment of fate, Watson, when you hear a step upon the stair which is walking into your life, and you know not whether for good or ill." ~Sir Arthur Conan Doyle [Mind.in.a.Box] -------

08-22-2008, 03:56 PM	#10 (permalink)
Turkish_Cats Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Type: INTJ Location: China Posts: 12	Because I have a gift of Ni,so I became J... __________________ Two things fill the mind with ever new and increasing admiration and awe, the more often and steadily we reflect upon them: the starry heavens above me and the moral law within me. --Kant Enneagram: 5、1 Functional Strengths: Ni, Te, Fi, Ti, Si, Fe, Ne, Se

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08-19-2008, 05:22 PM	#2 (permalink)
Night Focused Join Date: Nov 2007 Type: INTJ Posts: 3,098	INTx for most of my life. Post-grad, my J digit became necessary as to facilitate interest in applying/working in a non-academic environment.

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nottaprettygal Super Moderator Join Date: May 2007 Type: INTj Location: Baltimore Posts: 1,656	Why would the J in an INTJ be formed any differently than other Js? I'm curious as to the reasoning behind the idea. Nothing weird happened to me. . . apart from Uncle Melvin.

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Antisocial one I question everything Join Date: Jun 2008 Type: INTJ Posts: 2,853	In my case I think that playing a lot of strategy games made me so J.

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Beat ...lost Join Date: Oct 2007 Type: ISTj Location: Yonder Posts: 4,808	No clue.

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