NFs and the Global Village - Page 2

edcoaching · 09-23-2008, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Flak

That's not what I had in mind--It wasn't even criticism. I have noticed that many NFs take personally that which is entirely out of their realm of influence. To take the thread as an insult is an irrational instinct, and as such, should have expected almost everyone to read it the wrong way, since people are rarely rational. Alas, the time between the thought and the posting of the thread was about 10 seconds, so I didn't give myself the chance.

Actually, bad news isn't paralyzing but energizing to do my part in my sphere of influence. Rather than think that there's nothing I can do, I just work harder, hoping for the "pay it forward" effect, that someone I touch will go on to solve even bigger problems.

Is that rational? Not logical but rational?

Jack Flak · 09-23-2008, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by sanveane

I didn't think it was about bashing NFs fwiw. I was going to ask if you meant that NFs have difficulty shutting themselves off from those things which might bother them most?

Exactly. Before the information age, news was filtered a great deal more, to a greater degree the farther we go back in time.

disregard · 09-23-2008, 11:07 PM

Actually, your choice of rhetoric ("news of the wicked") was indeed insulting, for those that could actually be insulted by someone such as yourself.

runvardh · 09-23-2008, 11:08 PM

Eh, it sucks to hear about it because the effects can be intuited upon ones self due to how we operate. However, an NF that has reached a certain level of maturity can typically handle the effects semi rationally to rationally and not let it totally kill them. Empathy is just another tool that needs to be used properly.

Jack Flak · 09-23-2008, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by edcoaching

Actually, bad news isn't paralyzing but energizing to do my part in my sphere of influence. Rather than think that there's nothing I can do, I just work harder, hoping for the "pay it forward" effect, that someone I touch will go on to solve even bigger problems.

Is that rational? Not logical but rational?

That's logical and rational, and relates to the question at hand. Thank you.

Jack Flak · 09-23-2008, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by disregard

Actually, your choice of rhetoric ("news of the wicked") was indeed insulting, for those that could actually be insulted by someone such as yourself.

By "news of the wicked" I referred to, and only to "Tales of horrible things happening in the world." Did you misunderstand me?

xNTP · 09-23-2008, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Flak

That's not what I had in mind--It wasn't even criticism. I have noticed that many NFs take personally that which is entirely out of their realm of influence. To take the thread as an insult is an irrational instinct, and as such, should have expected almost everyone to read it the wrong way, since people are rarely rational. Alas, the time between the thought and the posting of the thread was about 10 seconds, so I didn't give myself the chance.

Okay.

heart · 09-23-2008, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Flak

I have noticed that many NFs take personally that which is entirely out of their realm of influence.

Life is personal to F. It doesn't necessarily mean F's ought to be sheltered.

Kyrielle · 09-23-2008, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Flak

I had an epiphany. You, being NF, tell me how accurate it is. I don't have much to say of it other than:

It doesn't seem NFs are built for an environment in which news of the wicked can reach them from anywhere on the globe without hindrance.

Hmm. Well, on one hand, I hate that I hear about a rape/murder/severe car crash/abduction on the news every single day. I'm aware it happens, I just don't like being reminded of it so often. On the other hand, I like that I can hear about what's going on around the world, even if it is bad news. It keeps me driven to keep going and doing what I'm doing because I'm sure what I want to do (tell stories) will in some way, down the line, help someone who is having trouble--not that that is my primary goal, just seems like a happy incident. I suppose it also gives me a bit of perspective. No matter how bad my life might seem at the moment, someone else's life is just as bad if not worse, so I should probably get over whatever the issue is.

Jack Flak · 09-23-2008, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by heart

Life is personal to F. It doesn't necessarily mean F's ought to be sheltered.

Certainly not, it's just analysis.

09-23-2008, 11:08 PM	#14 (permalink)
runvardh 悪猫 Join Date: Jun 2007 Type: INFP Location: In the bed and under it... Posts: 7,783	Eh, it sucks to hear about it because the effects can be intuited upon ones self due to how we operate. However, an NF that has reached a certain level of maturity can typically handle the effects semi rationally to rationally and not let it totally kill them. Empathy is just another tool that needs to be used properly. __________________ Dreams are best served manifest and tangible. INFP, 4w5 sx/sp, IEI I accept no responsibility, what so ever, for the fact that I exist; I do, however, accept full responsibility for what I do while I exist.

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09-23-2008, 11:07 PM	#13 (permalink)
disregard Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Type: ENTJ Location: Corona del Mar, CA Posts: 6,702	Actually, your choice of rhetoric ("news of the wicked") was indeed insulting, for those that could actually be insulted by someone such as yourself.