negative traits of unhealthy NF

sakuraba · 11-01-2007, 06:33 AM

-can be manipulative
-can be needy and always wanting your support, and then get mad when you want their support
-can be selfish
-dishonest

Athenian200 · 11-01-2007, 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by sakuraba

-can be manipulative
-can be needy and always wanting your support, and then get mad when you want their support
-can be selfish
-dishonest

I think those could apply to any unhealthy Feeling type, SF's as well. But those certainly do apply to NF's when unhealthy.

I would add that they can also become very critical, while still being very sensitive to criticism. A very bad combination.

sakuraba · 11-01-2007, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by athenian200

I would add that they can also become very critical, while still being very sensitive to criticism. A very bad combination.

Thanks for adding that. I kind of meant the same thing with how they want your support but then get upset when you want theirs. You articulated it much better.

and holy crap.

My ex-gf was enfj.

VERY VERY unhealthy to a point of suicidal. She would call me and txt msg me saying stuff like "i missss youuuu sooo much! ive been thinking about you all day. love you <3"

so I'd go see her to make sure she's doing alright. and then I called her the few days later to check up on her and talk to her she'd be like "omg what are you, my dad or something?" in the most bitchy tone possible.

it was incredibly frustrating to deal with at the time.

Mycroft · 11-01-2007, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by sakuraba

She would call me and txt msg me saying stuff like "i missss youuuu sooo much! ive been thinking about you all day. love you <3"

so I'd go see her to make sure she's doing alright. and then I called her the few days later to check up on her and talk to her she'd be like "omg what are you, my dad or something?" in the most bitchy tone possible.

This is why preteens shouldn't be allowed to date.

wolfmaiden14 · 11-01-2007, 06:03 PM

- when depressed(over sometimes stupid things) they become very draining, and very difficult to console

runvardh · 11-01-2007, 06:14 PM

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- when depressed(over sometimes stupid things) they become very draining, and very difficult to console

Yeah, when in this state it's best to just hold me or leave me alone...

quietgirl · 11-01-2007, 06:26 PM

I can list a couple of my stress traits, which I'm sure are undesirable. Some of them could be unique to an INFJ, though.

-Impossible to console. You could shower me with roses, sit by me and hold my hand, get into my head and try your best to solve the problem - but I will continue to be upset and inable to find a solution. I'll also get very defensive for no good reason.

-Argumentative. I will start arguing every idea you throw at me in the most stubborn, borderline close minded way possible. This ties in with impossible to console.

-Withdrawl. Under a lot of stress, I tend to bolt out of the situation dropping everything and everyone involved. On a smaller scale, I will start breaking plans for no good reason.

-Overfocusing on details. For the most part, I'm not particularly detail oriented. However, when I'm under stress, I will focus on the most unimportant details and give them some sort of delusional meaning. It's awful. I'll also start getting overly symbolic and start finding some out there meaning in things that are insignificant.

-Overindulgence. I do this RARELY, but it probably has to do with the theory that a negative ESTP shadow comes out when an INFJ is under extreme stress. I am normally very careful with spending money (borderline cheap! haha), but I will go on a pointless shopping spree if I am under a lot of stress. I'm also a really controlled drinker - I'll have a few and get tipsy, but it's a rare day you see me lose control with it. Under extreme stress, I've over drank quite a bit on a couple occasions.

chatoyer · 11-01-2007, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by athenian200

I would add that they can also become very critical, while still being very sensitive to criticism. A very bad combination.

I agree.

shen · 11-01-2007, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by runvardh

Yeah, when in this state it's best to just hold me or leave me alone...

so true....then i start poking my votex points and go in to mystical fairyland

INTJMom · 11-01-2007, 08:59 PM

Under extreme stress, fatigue or illness, the INFJ's shadow may appear - a negative form of ESTP.
Example characteristics are:

acting very impulsively, making decisions without thinking them through
doing things to excess - e.g.: eating, drinking or exercising
being critical of others, and finding fault with almost everything
being preoccupied about unimportant details and doing things that have no meaning
acting in a very materialistic and selfish way
cutting corners, breaking the rules, and even contradicting the INFJ's own values

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quietgirl Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Type: INFJ Posts: 403	I can list a couple of my stress traits, which I'm sure are undesirable. Some of them could be unique to an INFJ, though. -Impossible to console. You could shower me with roses, sit by me and hold my hand, get into my head and try your best to solve the problem - but I will continue to be upset and inable to find a solution. I'll also get very defensive for no good reason. -Argumentative. I will start arguing every idea you throw at me in the most stubborn, borderline close minded way possible. This ties in with impossible to console. -Withdrawl. Under a lot of stress, I tend to bolt out of the situation dropping everything and everyone involved. On a smaller scale, I will start breaking plans for no good reason. -Overfocusing on details. For the most part, I'm not particularly detail oriented. However, when I'm under stress, I will focus on the most unimportant details and give them some sort of delusional meaning. It's awful. I'll also start getting overly symbolic and start finding some out there meaning in things that are insignificant. -Overindulgence. I do this RARELY, but it probably has to do with the theory that a negative ESTP shadow comes out when an INFJ is under extreme stress. I am normally very careful with spending money (borderline cheap! haha), but I will go on a pointless shopping spree if I am under a lot of stress. I'm also a really controlled drinker - I'll have a few and get tipsy, but it's a rare day you see me lose control with it. Under extreme stress, I've over drank quite a bit on a couple occasions.