INFP 4's and 9's

phthalocyanine · 06-25-2009, 10:03 PM

Similarities? Differences? Thoughts?
How might the two types interact?

runvardh · 06-25-2009, 10:22 PM

Hmm, I'm still working on understanding all the differences myself. The 9 is probably more extroverted than the 4, but that's about all I can think of with out checking my books.

Nunki · 06-26-2009, 12:12 AM

The biggest difference would probably be the INFP's values. Fours are individualistic and need to be unique whereas Nines like to blend in so that they can get along with people. Going by that, I would imagine that Fours are guided by values aimed at self-growth and expression while Nines focus on broader issues like peace and freedom.

Udog · 06-26-2009, 02:58 AM

INFP 4s tend to excel at creativity in expression of emotion. Know an INFP that wins people over with art, passion, and style? They are probably a 4. INFP 4s can have vibrate personalities and be very exciting. The downside is that they are dramatic, and if they get into a negative rut will resist fixing that rut, as they identify themselves with their negative emotions and taking action to fix them is a form of self-betrayal.

INFP 9s tend to have fine tuned the art of emotional stability. Which isn't to say they aren't as emotional, but rather have developed a myriad of tactics, both healthy and unhealthy, to be emotionally calm in a storm. 9s are more likely to delve into what makes other people tick, and use that knowledge to create an environment that fosters peace, harmony, and prosperity. The price is that 9s can lose their unique personality, becoming who they need to be to best suit an environment. 9s are also likely to delude themselves and go to far greater lengths to avoid intense, emotional conflict, thereby letting the needs of others completely overwhelm their own personal needs.

phthalocyanine · 06-26-2009, 04:13 AM

type 4 is sometimes called 'the individualist' and type 9 'the peacemaker'. these seem almost opposite in nature, so i find it interesting that the two are associated with the same MBTI type.

runvardh · 06-26-2009, 05:01 PM

Well, in the end they do follow the basic principals of the INFP, it's just which values the individual is brought up with and encouraged to follow.

phthalocyanine · 06-26-2009, 05:21 PM

i think maybe 4's rely more on Fi and 9's on Ne, in social settings anyway

runvardh · 06-26-2009, 05:29 PM

It's also interesting that one level of integration from 4 is 1 which is right next to 9. Also, one level of integration from 9 is 3; I wonder if there is some extra meaning here...

BlackCat · 06-26-2009, 05:35 PM

One of the issues I've run in to is that I relate to the points of integration and disintegration of the 8, but I'm pretty obviously a 9 in how I act. But I'm very balanced between 8 and 9... it kinda throws me off. I've had a LOT of confusion between 8w9 and 9w8.

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Originally Posted by phthalocyanine

i think maybe 4's rely more on Fi and 9's on Ne, in social settings anyway

I can relate to this definitely.

phthalocyanine · 06-26-2009, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by runvardh

It's also interesting that one level of integration from 4 is 1 which is right next to 9. Also, one level of integration from 9 is 3; I wonder if there is some extra meaning here...

ooh. interesting indeed.. i'll have to reflect on this one more before i respond.

06-25-2009, 10:03 PM	#1 (permalink)
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06-25-2009, 10:22 PM	#2 (permalink)
runvardh 悪猫 Join Date: Jun 2007 Type: INFP Location: In the bed and under it... Posts: 7,782	Hmm, I'm still working on understanding all the differences myself. The 9 is probably more extroverted than the 4, but that's about all I can think of with out checking my books. __________________ Dreams are best served manifest and tangible. INFP, 4w5 sx/sp, IEI I accept no responsibility, what so ever, for the fact that I exist; I do, however, accept full responsibility for what I do while I exist.

06-26-2009, 12:12 AM	#3 (permalink)
Nunki Slightly Alive Join Date: Apr 2009 Type: INfj Posts: 683	The biggest difference would probably be the INFP's values. Fours are individualistic and need to be unique whereas Nines like to blend in so that they can get along with people. Going by that, I would imagine that Fours are guided by values aimed at self-growth and expression while Nines focus on broader issues like peace and freedom. __________________ [Ni > Ti > Fi > Ne > Fe > Si > Te > Se ][ 4w5 sp/sx ][ RLOAI ] "Nunki" is the Assyrian name for the second-in-command star system of Sagittarius

06-26-2009, 05:01 PM	#6 (permalink)
runvardh 悪猫 Join Date: Jun 2007 Type: INFP Location: In the bed and under it... Posts: 7,782	Well, in the end they do follow the basic principals of the INFP, it's just which values the individual is brought up with and encouraged to follow. __________________ Dreams are best served manifest and tangible. INFP, 4w5 sx/sp, IEI I accept no responsibility, what so ever, for the fact that I exist; I do, however, accept full responsibility for what I do while I exist.

06-26-2009, 05:29 PM	#8 (permalink)
runvardh 悪猫 Join Date: Jun 2007 Type: INFP Location: In the bed and under it... Posts: 7,782	It's also interesting that one level of integration from 4 is 1 which is right next to 9. Also, one level of integration from 9 is 3; I wonder if there is some extra meaning here... __________________ Dreams are best served manifest and tangible. INFP, 4w5 sx/sp, IEI I accept no responsibility, what so ever, for the fact that I exist; I do, however, accept full responsibility for what I do while I exist.

06-26-2009, 02:58 AM	#4 (permalink)
Udog Almost Mighty Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Type: INFP Location: Forward! Posts: 3,914	INFP 4s tend to excel at creativity in expression of emotion. Know an INFP that wins people over with art, passion, and style? They are probably a 4. INFP 4s can have vibrate personalities and be very exciting. The downside is that they are dramatic, and if they get into a negative rut will resist fixing that rut, as they identify themselves with their negative emotions and taking action to fix them is a form of self-betrayal. INFP 9s tend to have fine tuned the art of emotional stability. Which isn't to say they aren't as emotional, but rather have developed a myriad of tactics, both healthy and unhealthy, to be emotionally calm in a storm. 9s are more likely to delve into what makes other people tick, and use that knowledge to create an environment that fosters peace, harmony, and prosperity. The price is that 9s can lose their unique personality, becoming who they need to be to best suit an environment. 9s are also likely to delude themselves and go to far greater lengths to avoid intense, emotional conflict, thereby letting the needs of others completely overwhelm their own personal needs.

06-26-2009, 04:13 AM	#5 (permalink)
phthalocyanine #005645 Join Date: Jun 2009 Type: Posts: 577	type 4 is sometimes called 'the individualist' and type 9 'the peacemaker'. these seem almost opposite in nature, so i find it interesting that the two are associated with the same MBTI type.

06-26-2009, 05:21 PM	#7 (permalink)
phthalocyanine #005645 Join Date: Jun 2009 Type: Posts: 577	i think maybe 4's rely more on Fi and 9's on Ne, in social settings anyway

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