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Old 02-27-2008, 03:38 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Whaddayou fuckers think?

I think it's a bunch of overhyped bourgeois bull, and I'm allowed to say that because I'm not a republican.
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Old 02-27-2008, 03:48 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I concur.

I recycle. I don't litter. I don't waste. I barely drive my car.

I'm not falling victim to your guilt trip, world.
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I guess we will find out when the polar ice caps melt and our grandkids drown.
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Old 02-27-2008, 04:32 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I guess we will find out when the polar ice caps melt and our grandkids drown.
I did a pretty conclusive test proving that this will not happen.

I filled a cup with ice. The ice was actually jutting from the rim of the cup about an inch and a half. I then filled the cup with water to the top.

When the ice melted, the water level went down, even though there was a significant portion of it above the water level.

My experiment, testing the basic physics of global warming is unparalleled (to my knowledge) in the supporters of the notion.

The only flood we need to worry about is of polar bears moving to Canada. Maybe a flood of white furs in department stores. Those caps are probably displacing more water than they themselves are made of.

I'll grant, that my experiment is hardly representative of what's actually going on, but I'd be interested to hear if anyone really has any fucking clue what they're talking about when it comes to the physics. It's a pretty crucial aspect of the validity of the movement, but it seems to be something they completely ignored. We're searching for solutions to something that's probably not a problem.

All I've heard is conjecturing. I've never even seen a test proving that CO2 actually traps the light in. And I've searched. Maybe in the wrong places, but all I've seen so far is speculation about the atmospheric 'trapping' of light with green house gases.

Can someone here prove me wrong? Don't tell me to watch an inconvenient truth. I've seen it. Many times.
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I'm also curious if anyone else senses some narcissistic undertones in the entire notion.

Anyone else think maybe we blame ourselves (for nearly everything... even shit we don't do) simply because it makes us feel powerful? Excepting the few who've decided that being powerful is evil and wrong maybe.
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I'll grant, that my experiment is hardly representative of what's actually going on, but I'd be interested to hear if anyone really has any fucking clue what they're talking about when it comes to the physics. It's a pretty crucial aspect of the validity of the movement, but it seems to be something they completely ignored. We're searching for solutions to something that's probably not a problem.
Was the water salt water? Did you measure out a proportion of ice to water equivalent to that which is expected to melt? Did you consider that much of the ice that is melting is located on land and isn't just floating in water?

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All I've heard is conjecturing. I've never even seen a test proving that CO2 actually traps the light in. And I've searched. Maybe in the wrong places, but all I've seen so far is speculation about the atmospheric 'trapping' of light with green house gases.
It's called a "greenhouse" gas for a reason.

Actually, they found that the levels of a certain isotope of carbon associated only with the burning of fossil fuels has steadily gone up in the atmosphere. I would consider that pretty conclusive proof.
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I did a pretty conclusive test proving that this will not happen.

I filled a cup with ice. The ice was actually jutting from the rim of the cup about an inch and a half. I then filled the cup with water to the top.

When the ice melted, the water level went down, even though there was a significant portion of it above the water level.

My experiment, testing the basic physics of global warming is unparalleled (to my knowledge) in the supporters of the notion.

The only flood we need to worry about is of polar bears moving to Canada. Maybe a flood of white furs in department stores. Those caps are probably displacing more water than they themselves are made of.

I'll grant, that my experiment is hardly representative of what's actually going on, but I'd be interested to hear if anyone really has any fucking clue what they're talking about when it comes to the physics. It's a pretty crucial aspect of the validity of the movement, but it seems to be something they completely ignored. We're searching for solutions to something that's probably not a problem.

All I've heard is conjecturing. I've never even seen a test proving that CO2 actually traps the light in. And I've searched. Maybe in the wrong places, but all I've seen so far is speculation about the atmospheric 'trapping' of light with green house gases.

Can someone here prove me wrong? Don't tell me to watch an inconvenient truth. I've seen it. Many times.
your test is flawed. glaciers and shit are on land/above water level.
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oooh... I'll so answer this tommorrow *yawn* I'm taking a grad level class on global warming at the moment

global warming is real, and we're not being egomaniacs by saying that it's anthropogenic (the real egomaniacs seem to be the ones who say it's merely a Milankovic Cycle or something )- you can see that if you examine the changes in carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gasses in the atmosphere from before and after the industrial revolution Nothing else on the planet could have caused such a dramatic increase in the level of greenhouse gasses quite as efficiently!

I'll answer more later- now is time for
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As you can see in this animation a giant weasel is humping the earth. This humping action generates heat which melts the ice and drowns the polar bears, their white fur reflects a significant amount of sunlight. Without the polar bears reflecting the sun's rays back into space the earth heats up even more. The only way to stop this is to pump enough CO2 into the atmosphere, suffocating the weasel. Scientists are the evil minions of the weasel and are trying to stop the the heroic oil companies from defeating this menace.
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