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    Default What does Fi look like and what are ii'ts strengths and applications?

    What does Fi look like, and how does a Fi user use it in life (and what for)? What are it's applications and strengths?
    If possible, please contrast what you write with a non-Fi user.

    I'm trying to reunderstand my Fi as a benefit to me in my life. As far as I can see..I seem to have some sort of strength whose value I'm completely blind to. I would like to change that and feeld good about my personal strengths in a manner that made sense. I wrote in another thread how I would like us all (the MBTI communitty) to talk about these things more in-depth. It seems everyone talks about these functions, but there's very little information on how it is any way enpowering to be aware of one's major functions. Or how to apply them in the right manner in life.

    All descriptions I come across online are super abstract when it comes to Fi...as if it was all written by people who know nothing about it. They make all Fi users come across as more authentic than other types or in anyway more aware of their feelings...in my personal experience this doesn't seem the case at all. Help me solve this mystery, please.
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    Fi is about having a set of values that define oneself as an individual rather than as a collective like an Fe user. It's a subjective function that is ruled by personal experience. I need to question why something would affect me first before diving into anything. Always have to have a chat with Ms. Fi before taking a step out of boundary. Dominant Ne and Se users tend to take that leap without much hesitation, since Fi is in their auxiliary. They are naturally comfortable using their dominant function because it's, well, their dominant. Fi users tend to think twice, I suppose. That could be either a positive or a negative thing depending on the situation at hand.

    Also, I tend to come off guarded around other people, even sometimes with my own family members and friends. Feelings for me are usually kept wrapped up inside more often than on the surface. I very rarely go around telling people what I'm feeling or open up about aspects of my inner world. I am a lot more open on this forum than I am in real life. In real life, people have told me that I've appeared arrogant, somber, and sometimes bored because I don't usually exude that natural, warm aura that dominant Fe users have, or the perkiness of dominant Ne and Se users. It's more subdued and restrained. And yes, I introspect. A LOT. That's about the gist of it.

    Btw, that's a damn fine cup of coffee, Coop.
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    I'm not hearing any strengths. I get it, you check in with your feelings ....but what does it DOOO? And what if I don't check in with my feelings? Aren't dom and aux functions supposed to be done mostly on automatic by the user? I definately don't consciously check in with how I feel on anything on automatic.

    AND! What is is good for? How is it an advantage in constrast with non-Fi users? And by non-Fi users I mean non-doms or non-auxs. I mean er'body has to have have either Fi or Fe in their stack.

    I DON'T UNDERSTAND!!!How is it an evolutionary advantage? What does it DOOO?
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    @burningranger, It depends on where Fi is in your cognitive stacking as to what it looks like. Since you're ENFP, I'm guessing you'll explore possibilities first (with others perhaps) before making a feeling judgment, where an INFP won't want to do that. They'll want to be alone to evaluate their feelings before considering possibilities (with others) that would confirm their feeling judgment. That's one example.
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    Fi is a method of organization and sorting. Of making sense of the world. The perceiving function acts as the information gatherer. Fi sorts. I think of my Fi as a deep cave. All you see on the surface is the opening of the cave mouth. Underneath is where it all lies. It's like a labyrinth the Minotaur would haunt, except I am the Minotaur and I know my way around it cause it's my structure I built myself.

    Fi is the foundation I use to make sense of the world. It's constantly being revised, reorganized, and expanded. Rather than thinking of the structure as being based off likes and dislikes, I prefer to think of it as a series of ethical considerations, like right and wrong or somewhere in the space inbetween (there are a lot of complexities).

    For me, an event is inseparable from my experience of the event. It's not whole without both being taken into consideration. But with Fi plus the perceiving function, you have the ability to explore other people's perceptions beyond just your own. And this fills yours in more, and gives you a greater understanding upon which to add to your foundational labyrinth.

    Fi is no more authentic or inauthentic than any other function. It's just inward. The majority of it lies underground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by burningranger View Post
    I'm not hearing any strengths. I get it, you check in with your feelings ....but what does it DOOO? And what if I don't check in with my feelings? Aren't dom and aux functions supposed to be done mostly on automatic by the user? I definately don't consciously check in with how I feel on anything on automatic.

    AND! What is is good for? How is it an advantage in constrast with non-Fi users? And by non-Fi users I mean non-doms or non-auxs. I mean er'body has to have have either Fi or Fe in their stack.

    I DON'T UNDERSTAND!!!How is it an evolutionary advantage? What does it DOOO?
    It makes wonderful martinis!

    I can't speak for others but it's my own personal set of rules I play by. It isn't a checklist I consciously have to go through when introduced to new stimuli. The code, the rules, the system is so much a part of me it's inextricably a piece of the whole and so it's an automatic process and I react instantaneously or nearly so. It's used to process every bit of incoming data. Like my eyes or my ears it gives me input.

    As for it's evolutionary value? How should I know? It's served me for forty five years. Certainly not always flawlessly and maybe not always in a way that others find logical or reasonable but more often than not it has successfully guided me through life.
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    You must understand Te, its opposite before you get a full understanding of Fi.

    You cannot "see" introverted functions, for they are introverted.

    Its strength is integrity and to stand up for those who have been put away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lotus View Post
    Fi is about having a set of values that define oneself as an individual rather than as a collective like an Fe user. It's a subjective function that is ruled by personal experience. I need to question why something would affect me first before diving into anything. Always have to have a chat with Ms. Fi before taking a step out of boundary. Dominant Ne and Se users tend to take that leap without much hesitation, since Fi is in their auxiliary. They are naturally comfortable using their dominant function because it's, well, their dominant. Fi users tend to think twice, I suppose. That could be either a positive or a negative thing depending on the situation at hand. Also, I tend to come off guarded around other people, even sometimes with my own family members and friends. Feelings for me are usually kept wrapped up inside more often than on the surface. I very rarely go around telling people what I'm feeling or open up about aspects of my inner world. I am a lot more open on this forum than I am in real life. In real life, people have told me that I've appeared arrogant, somber, and sometimes bored because I don't usually exude that natural, warm aura that dominant Fe users have, or the perkiness of dominant Ne and Se users. It's more subdued and restrained. And yes, I introspect. A LOT. That's about the gist of it. Btw, that's a damn fine cup of coffee, Coop.
    What a fantastic explanation of both FI and Inadvertently FE thank you, it's just so fascinating how introversion and extroversion make the functions behave so differently
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    Quote Originally Posted by magpie View Post
    Fi is a method of organization and sorting. Of making sense of the world. The perceiving function acts as the information gatherer. Fi sorts. I think of my Fi as a deep cave. All you see on the surface is the opening of the cave mouth. Underneath is where it all lies. It's like a labyrinth the Minotaur would haunt, except I am the Minotaur and I know my way around it cause it's my structure I built myself.

    Fi is the foundation I use to make sense of the world. It's constantly being revised, reorganized, and expanded. Rather than thinking of the structure as being based off likes and dislikes, I prefer to think of it as a series of ethical considerations, like right and wrong or somewhere in the space inbetween (there are a lot of complexities).

    For me, an event is inseparable from my experience of the event. It's not whole without both being taken into consideration. But with Fi plus the perceiving function, you have the ability to explore other people's perceptions beyond just your own. And this fills yours in more, and gives you a greater understanding upon which to add to your foundational labyrinth.

    Fi is no more authentic or inauthentic than any other function. It's just inward. The majority of it lies underground.

    This is such a beautiful and coherent explanation of Fi. I've tried explaining much of what you just said here to others before, but it seems to just come out in fragments. Understanding your Fi as this inner labyrinth, exploring other's perceptions beyond your own as a way to help understand your own, events being inseparable from your emotions and who you are...if there is one wish I would be granted right now, it would be the ability to let just one other person, just give me that, I don't need hundreds, to see the world, to feel the world as I do, for it is seen through this...I can't even describe it. But you, my friend, have given my world, a voice. Thank you
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    Quote Originally Posted by burningranger View Post
    I'm not hearing any strengths. I get it, you check in with your feelings ....but what does it DOOO? And what if I don't check in with my feelings? Aren't dom and aux functions supposed to be done mostly on automatic by the user? I definately don't consciously check in with how I feel on anything on automatic.

    AND! What is is good for? How is it an advantage in constrast with non-Fi users? And by non-Fi users I mean non-doms or non-auxs. I mean er'body has to have have either Fi or Fe in their stack.

    I DON'T UNDERSTAND!!!How is it an evolutionary advantage? What does it DOOO?

    What you are hearing from others about Fi, is a function that is presented in a way that it only CAN be presented. It has nothing to do with objective value or strengths, but rather, a sense of being. It's...you. But, to try and give you a "strength" at least in a way you are requesting of it, I can tell you what it has and always will do for me. Well let me just say, that this is something I've felt long before getting into personality type, and is something I assume to be attributed to Fi, though, for all I know, it might not be. But, one thing I highly relate to with the ENFP typing, ESFPs do this as well, is that they appear to be the sorts of people that can just "go". At the drop of the hat, they are there. There is little structure in their lives in the view of many of those around them. But here's a secret, there IS a structure, and there IS an organization. There IS something holding all that external crazy together, and it's something no one ever sees externally. You can see it, if you know what to look for, but to the average person, that structure is absent.

    What I'm talking about, and what I've always known and felt of myself, is that amidst these fun adventures I absolutely feed off of in the day-to-day, the ideas, the creativity! The glue, is me. What I mean by that, is that I have this inner understanding of myself. I know who I am inside and out, how I feel, what makes me tick, my insecurities, how they come out in my actions and words, my experiences and how they made me feel, how I've then grown from those experiences, or didn't. My hopes, my dreams. How those dreams guide me and where they even stem from! I know how the people I've met have shaped me in ways, emotionally and mentally, that some people wouldn't consider examining. While I continue to find new bits of me each and every day, and in my times of introspection (which I do quite often), each day I have the confidence that what I know of myself in that given moment, is the fullest I could ever know myself, with no rock unturned. And yet, I continue to surprise myself as I jump into new experiences and meet new people, that NEW information of myself, a new crevice has just been discovered, and it's always such an enlightening and satisfying experience. It's never unsettling or jarring for me.

    So! to return to that strength you seek of Fi. For me, the strength of Fi comes from how deeply I feel I know myself. It is such a solid and confident place, it is exactly what allows me to take those leaps and jump to new heights and dream those fantastic dreams. THAT, is the internal structure I speak of, and what I have always known as true in my life. I may not know what's around the corner, what will happen to me in this situation or that, or even if I will like it, but it doesn't matter, because so long as I know of myself is true, and it FEELS true (it really is an inner sense of just "knowing") then whatever happens to me externally, whatever is thrown my way, good or bad, can do no more harm to me than I can do to myself...if that makes sense. I genuinely believe I am the sole gatekeeper to my own demise and downfall in life, and so long as I do not allow that to happen, so long as I make that decision not to step towards that direction, I can just keep on smiling and keep on living life to its fullest.
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