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    I've posted it elsewhere on the board. In short, because people who take the Official MBTI are more likely to be taking the test for someone else than themselves. Such as an employer. When I B.S. my way through an interview, it's generally through my acting SJ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flak View Post
    I've posted it elsewhere on the board. In short, because people who take the Official MBTI are more likely to be taking the test for someone else than themselves. Such as an employer. When I B.S. my way through an interview, it's generally through my acting SJ.
    That's possibly true, although they have hundreds of thousands of records from other places, along with the records of their validation tests.

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    100,000 B.S. records makes not one worth a F***.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flak View Post
    100,000 B.S. records makes not one worth a F***.
    The point being that they have multiple sets, and random sets from their instrument validation.

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    And they're therefore accurate? U CN DO BETR, methinks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flak View Post
    I've posted it elsewhere on the board. In short, because people who take the Official MBTI are more likely to be taking the test for someone else than themselves. Such as an employer. When I B.S. my way through an interview, it's generally through my acting SJ.
    When they did the national representative sample, CPP solicited people specifically for that purpose--the were taking it independent of workplace.

    CPP's the publisher of the MBTI. CAPT is a nonprofit that does training, publishes resources, and houses the Isabel Myers Memorial Library, the bibliography of which is online.
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    I still refuse to believe actual type distribution leads to higher xSTJ than ESFP. People can be horrible test-takers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flak View Post
    And they're therefore accurate? U CN DO BETR, methinks.
    *sigh*

    You complain about systemic bias in their collection system. I tell you that they have academic sets, as well as random sets used during their validation. I figured you could translate this to having various baselines to measure skew.

    K, thx, bye.

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    Where all of these ESFP's?
    I see SJ's everywhere I go!!!

    I don't know if you are in college or not but a lot of the people who try to act all "SP-ish" are simply SJs trying to fit in.

    For instance.. last year, I had a roommate who is very outgoing and enjoys the partying scene.
    From a superficial perspective, he may seem like an ESTP.
    However, he is very organized, structured, and hardworking on the weekdays- he hates messes and often was annoyed at me for not cleaning my side of the room. Everything else says that he is actually an ESTJ, not an ESTP. If Rationals and/or Idealists were running things, you would see a lot of Guardians trying to act like them too... The college partying scene demands Se- living for the moment.


    On a side note, I thought Ne would work just as well for the scene- it doesn't.
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    There are more ESFPs than ISTJs, at least. It's the whole test bias thing.

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