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  • INTP

    17 42.50%
  • INTJ

    18 45.00%
  • ENTP

    6 15.00%
  • ENTJ

    10 25.00%
  • INFP

    1 2.50%
  • INFJ

    2 5.00%
  • ENFP

    0 0%
  • ENFJ

    0 0%
  • ISTP

    2 5.00%
  • ISTJ

    3 7.50%
  • ESTP

    3 7.50%
  • ESTJ

    1 2.50%
  • ISFP

    0 0%
  • ISFJ

    0 0%
  • ESFP

    0 0%
  • ESFJ

    0 0%
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    As an INTJ female, I think I have disproportionately put myself into places to find some of the more rare types. For instance... I know I am lucky, but I know TWO OTHER INTJ females.
    One of them is a dear friend who I unfortunately live very far away from and the other was my favorite prof at university. (Biochemistry dept.)

    I have a female INTP friend. I've never met an ENTX female (or at least typed one).

    I also have actually had over half of these people tested (i was tested in a large group of friends, and i convinced a few to test on humanmetrics).

    To Sum:
    INTJ = 2 + me
    INTP = 1
    ENTJ = 0
    ENTP = 0

    INFJ = 0 (I wish I knew what these looked like better; I haven't found one yet!)
    INFP = 1
    ENFJ = 4 or 5
    ENFP = 1

    ISTJ = 2
    ISFJ = 4
    ESTJ = 1
    ESFJ = 4

    ISTP = 0 (i just don't nkow this type well enough to type them, i think)
    ISFP = 0 (same)
    ESTP = 2
    ESFP = 4
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    Quote Originally Posted by ptgatsby View Post
    I suspect heavy bias due to localized culture is responsible (Jennifer, I know, comes from a more... traditional Christian backdrop... which should, in theory, emulate SFJ - caring - and NF - value systems, which it does.)
    Yes, that's exactly it. Many of the relationships come either from a church setting, or from relationships established by my S wife with her coworkers (who I have then become friends with), or my workplace (which is heavily S in nature).

    Most of the NFs were women I met in spiritual settings over the years as well -- and I meet many more NF women than NT women in those settings.

    So that is the obvious bias there for me. The only place I've met so many NTs is here online, but those are not "face to face" in-person meetings, so I can't include them in my list.

    Quote Originally Posted by usehername
    ISTP = 0 (i just don't nkow this type well enough to type them, i think)
    The one that I have met, I recognized because she was very much like me (laid-back, low-key, fun, sensible, a bit emotionally detached) but instinctively was more into tangible activities compared to my abstract pastimes. She still came across very much as female, but physically active and task-competent.

    In appearance, she had longer hair, for example, but usually wore it back in a ponytail rather than wasting time styling it, and she didn't really wear makeup except for the bare essentials (if that). Even when she wore a dress and actually looked very "pretty" (in a natural way), she didn't come off as "foo-foo" -- it wouldn't have surprised anyone to see her throw a football or run a sprint wearing a sundress. Anyway, we enjoyed each other's company; she just tended towards the pragmatic and I tended towards the esoteric.

    INFJ = 0 (I wish I knew what these looked like better; I haven't found one yet!)
    Probably the "easiest" way is to think of them acting outwardly as ISFJs, but they seem much more mysterious or far-seeing in the implications of actions and behavior and what not.

    Both ISFJ and INFJ share the Fe as a secondary function, so in many ways they will both look similar. But ISFJs do not seem to have much mystery surrounding them, tend to go by the book, are pretty much What You See Is What You Get, their needs seem very obvious, they are happy with status quo usually. INFJs have this underlying current that is harder to read, and they interact more deeply, seeing past the surface details that an ISFJ is often hung up on.

    INFJs are much less about status quo, even though they have very set personal standards and definitely have opinions on matters. They can see the benefits of many different viewpoints, though (ISFJ tends to get stuck in their own). And even why they are very practical, they often can exude an unexpected silly/imaginative/quirky side if they let it come out.

    I don't know, maybe Cafe can explain it better. These are just ways I recognize them myself... I just know as soon as I start talking to an INFJ that she is NOT an ISFJ... it's very very clear to me, the level of conversation is much different.
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    Usehername:you have met as many or more ENFJs then ESFJs? Where are you meeting them? I have only met one other ENFJ that I am aware of. Actually I would like to know where you all are meeting N's in general so I can go there!

    *EDIT:if it's at Star trek conventions you can count me out....just thought I would add that *
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    Within my circles, INTP women are relatively common, at about twice the frequency of INTJ women, but in the general population, all NT women, especially the introverted ones, seem to be exceptionally rare. Of course, males of the same types outnumber females by about 3 to 1.
    I 100%, N 88%, T 88%, J 75%

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    I voted ENTJ because that seems the least likely in the general population, though I know several because I tend to drift towards them.

    As far as females I know (mostly guesses):

    Friends: IXTJ (leaning towards S I think, but not sure), ESXP

    Acquaintances:
    ISFJ
    ESFJ x3
    INFP x2
    ENFP x2
    INFJ
    INTJ (maybe)
    IXTJ (leaning towards N)
    ENTJ
    ENTX
    ESTJ
    Also 3 or 4 STs on my various sports teams, I think. Don't know them well enough to tell J/P or I/E really.

    Overall, probably 60% F, maybe 50% I/E, 75% N (this may be biased though because most of the people I intensely dislike and avoid seem to be SFs, especially SFJs), 75% J

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    The one that I have met, I recognized because she was very much like me (laid-back, low-key, fun, sensible, a bit emotionally detached) but instinctively was more into tangible activities compared to my abstract pastimes. She still came across very much as female, but physically active and task-competent.
    Is there usually an easily noticeable difference between ISTPs and INTPs? I know they're both Introverted Thinkers, but the different extroverted auxiliary functions, I assume would make them seem quite different.

    The stereotypes, I always assumed, were that ISTPs were more interested in fixing mechanical things and such while INTPs had more geeky interests and that ISTPs appeared more "sporty" while INTPs appeared more "nerdy."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    The one that I have met, I recognized because she was very much like me (laid-back, low-key, fun, sensible, a bit emotionally detached) but instinctively was more into tangible activities compared to my abstract pastimes. She still came across very much as female, but physically active and task-competent.

    In appearance, she had longer hair, for example, but usually wore it back in a ponytail rather than wasting time styling it, and she didn't really wear makeup except for the bare essentials (if that). Even when she wore a dress and actually looked very "pretty" (in a natural way), she didn't come off as "foo-foo" -- it wouldn't have surprised anyone to see her throw a football or run a sprint wearing a sundress. Anyway, we enjoyed each other's company; she just tended towards the pragmatic and I tended towards the esoteric.
    You know, this would describe me exactly *starts another cycle of doubting type* Or maybe some INTP girls act like that, too...maybe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uberfuhrer View Post
    Is there usually an easily noticeable difference between ISTPs and INTPs? I know they're both Introverted Thinkers, but the different extroverted auxiliary functions, I assume would make them seem quite different.

    The stereotypes, I always assumed, were that ISTPs were more interested in fixing mechanical things and such while INTPs had more geeky interests and that ISTPs appeared more "sporty" while INTPs appeared more "nerdy."
    "Sporty" and "nerdy" aren't quite the professional-level jargon but that's SORT of the idea.

    For example, I would make Monty Python references and she would laugh, because she "got them" and found them humorous, but she would have never really watched the show or made the jokes herself. MPFC is more an intellectual/esoteric thing. She preferred hands-on activities instead, if she had the choice. And even though I don't think she was on any teams, you would have thought her "athletic" just by how she approached situations and carried herself.... even though at the same time you got the idea she was very bright intellectually, based on how articulate she was.

    The male ISTP I knew was very very quiet and seemed to think very deeply... but for work, he enjoyed hands-on things (for example, he drove a forklift for awhile), and the "ideas" he focused on were ones of practical value (he knew a lot about Marxism, for example, and Communism... he was less interested in the abstract philosophy and more interested in theories that had real impact and basis in observable systems). I wanted to discuss the ideas themselves, he wanted to discuss only things with that sort of pragmatic value.
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    I always tended to think that INTPs are sort of hermit-like because they're more cerebral and probably perceived not only as quiet, but also eccentric, while an ISTP, despite an Introverted preference, would have less trouble with sociability because of a Sensing preference that is tuned into the physical world and inclined to a more mainstream way of thinking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uberfuhrer View Post
    I always tended to think that INTPs are sort of hermit-like because they're more cerebral and probably perceived not only as quiet, but also eccentric, while an ISTP, despite an Introverted preference, would have less trouble with sociability because of a Sensing preference that is tuned into the physical world and inclined to a more mainstream way of thinking.
    That seems to be a logical conclusion. ISTPs can still be reclusive if their I is very high (and they still feel like "people interfere" too much or are not logical and thus get in their way of doing what they want); but the Sensing preference really gives them a firm connection to the majority of the world. SJs can at least puzzle them out.
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