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    Default How can a quality become itself if it is already itself?

    A valid question posed by athenian.

    Initiation is not about the order.
    It is about direction.
    Order is independent of direction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wildcat View Post
    A valid question posed by athenian.

    Initiation is not about the order.
    It is about direction.
    Order is independent of direction.
    I think I see. Qualities are in some sense dynamic rather than static, always moving in a direction, even if that direction leads it back to where it started. So when you say that it is becoming, you talk about where it is going, not how it is now.

    Is that right?

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    Do not all things have a beginning and end? A start and finish?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PinkPiranha View Post
    Do not all things have a beginning and end? A start and finish?
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    HAL? Is that you?
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    Read, if you please, at your earliest convenience: The Last Question -- Isaac Asimov

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    Quote Originally Posted by Athenian200 View Post
    I think I see. Qualities are in some sense dynamic rather than static, always moving in a direction, even if that direction leads it back to where it started. So when you say that it is becoming, you talk about where it is going, not how it is now.

    Is that right?
    Yes.
    Quality is the basic differentiation.
    The hand.
    The dynamics of space.

    Quantity is of space alone.
    Distinction is not order.
    Direction is back already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PinkPiranha View Post
    Do not all things have a beginning and end? A start and finish?

    The subject does not differentiate the object.
    The object does differentiate the subject.

    The set is the order.
    The outset is what it says to be.
    Out of the set. Not of the order.

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    You are you, and yet you become yourself. Layers within layers, plots within plots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldanen View Post
    You are you, and yet you become yourself. Layers within layers, plots within plots.
    Oh lookee! A sentence I can understand! Whoohoo!

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