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    Quote Originally Posted by Xander View Post
    Well essentially yes but I was more pointing to the inability to divide the word plasticrete into two words plastic and concrete and then get her to accept that it's just a combination of the two. For some reason this did not sink in.

    I wonder if Ss tend to enjoy science fiction which either is based in the past or has explained technology where as Ns would enjoy the concepts developed in these stories which are new to them?
    When you really think about it, though, plastic concrete doesn't really make much sense...

    In a way that could be an N function, particularly Ni, because Ni tries to make sense of everything in their focus (i.e. they question "What's the point?"), never taking it at face value.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Randomnity View Post
    Hmm. I feel dumb asking this, but what exactly is daydreaming? Is it imagining that unicorns are prancing across meadows, ie thinking about random hypothetical situations, or just musing over solutions to real-life problems? The latter I do often, you'll often find me oblivious to the world while trying to debate internally what I should do about some situation. The former, almost never, and briefly then.
    For me it's putting myself in situations that are an escape - a fantasy. I can keep a 'story' going for months, adding characters, taking trips, living a daily life (one that isn't the one I live now).

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    When I daydream, I often work through events and scenarios that I envision happening in the future.

    I used to love taking very long solitary car rides without listening to music, spending hours inside my head. I was always amazed at how fast time passed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Usehername View Post
    So my ISFJ mom and I were talking; she mentioned how someone had commented to her that my little bro (INFP) was sitting alone in the field at his school; should they be worried? She replied, "no"... anyway she was relating the story to me, my response was, "of course not, he's just daydreaming".

    She looked at me blankly, and said, "no. i've done stuff like that too. Sometimes I just like to sit and listen to teh birds and look at the beautiful grass and enjoy the nice clouds..."

    And I was like, "No. He was daydreaming".

    And she responded, "No. You're brother's a deep thinker" We bickered; I knew I was right.
    I asked her how often she daydreamed. She replied "never". She asked me, I said "several times a day, often for long periods".
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    When I told my bro about this later, he laughed until he realized I was serious when she thought he never daydreamed. His response? "What does she think deep thinkers do?!"

    Anyway.

    So we asked my ESFJ sister; she daydreams "maybe once a month". My bro talked to three of his friends; two thought he was crazy for "having conversations in his head" and one could totally relate.


    I think we've stumbled on the jackpot, guys. Just ask someone if they daydream, and if so, how often. There yah go. That's the divider!

    (Although a very balanced S/N might not give a definitive answer, I suppose.)
    yea, I must say I think this is a deciding factor. I was talking with my roomate who is an ISTP and I was telling her about how I was "daydreaming" for about 30 minutes while driving a few weeks ago. She was like, "what, you thought of all that?" and I said, "yea, don't you do that? I mean what do you think about when you are driving?" She said she does not day dream at all! She said she is thinking about what is going on right in front of her always - looking at the mountains, the sky, the clouds, the other cars, making sure she is not too close to the other cars and maybe she thinks about what is happening later that day."

    I think about what I want to do in the next five years and then 30 minutes go by before I go, oh, wow, the mountains look really pretty. then I go back to daydreaming again.
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    Driving can be weird while daydreaming. Sometimes I will arrive at my destination and have no memory of the trip. It's like I wasn't even there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptgatsby View Post
    Theory: It has more to do with being I--P (dominant Fi and Ti) than with being N/S.

    Any ISxPs want to knock me out of the water?

    (Inward processing is nearly the definition of daydreaming, is it not?)
    I have Ni and Fe as my dominant and second functions and I daydream a lot!

    Ti is my third function and I did read that we develop our functions in a certain order. Since I am at the age where I would have developed my third function maybe this is why. I do tend to think deeply and daydream for much longer periods of time than I did when I was a teenager or in my twenties. Still working on Se.

    From age 7 to 12 we develop we develop our first function, age 12 to 20 our second function, age 20 to 35 our third function and age 35 on we develop our fourth function.

    Anyway, I think your idea that daydreaming has to do with I...P only is incorrect. I do think that intuitive types and expecially introverted intuititive tend to daydream far more than sensors or probably any extroverts. IMO.
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    I daydream a lot.

    And it pisses me off when people touch my computer screen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by curmudgeon View Post
    Driving can be weird while daydreaming. Sometimes I will arrive at my destination and have no memory of the trip. It's like I wasn't even there.
    I often daydream while driving as well, especially if I am driving along a familiar route or there is very little traffic. It's like I'm on autopilot.

    It's the same thing when I'm walking my dog - we just start out walking and I let my mind wander. The next thing I know, we're back where we started.

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    Quote Originally Posted by indigo2020 View Post
    Anyway, I think your idea that daydreaming has to do with I...P only is incorrect. I do think that intuitive types and expecially introverted intuititive tend to daydream far more than sensors or probably any extroverts. IMO.
    Well, fair enough. I was mostly thinking it out in theory. From what I can tell, the daydreaming amount is pretty close across the board, except maybe the I/E divide. I wasn't claiming anything specific... I have no real reason to believe the N/S or the I/E or the J/P or the functional order have anything to do with it

    (I do have a little bit of reason to believe that FFM I/E has something to do with it, along with the FFM J/P equivalent, which is the only reason I would say anything at all. But besides being weakly correlated, the research is based upon attention span and reaction times more than daydreaming exactly.)

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    I daydream A LOT.
    I bet they'll put something in the air tonight, just to light your face.

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