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    Quote Originally Posted by Xander View Post
    Ti analyse information... goes "that's rubbish"... Ne goes "what is?" ... Ti replies "nothing"....
    What happen then?

    (not sure about circles... producing too many of my own to sort that one out :eek: )
    In my own experience:
    Ti analyzes info, says: "that's neither here nor there so toss it, but let's follow this little Ti-string and see where it leads us." Then, in the course of following the string, Ti comes to find the info wasn't total rubbish after all because now it sees the connection.
    Never happens to you?
    Of course some tossed things stay tossed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IF3157 View Post
    In my own experience:
    Ti analyzes info, says: "that's neither here nor there so toss it, but let's follow this little Ti-string and see where it leads us." Then, in the course of following the string, Ti comes to find the info wasn't total rubbish after all because now it sees the connection.
    Never happens to you?
    Of course some tossed things stay tossed.
    Err no not really. As soon as Ti junks it unless my intuition or other external sources suggest I should continue I move on. Too much to do to ponificate everything...
    Isn't it time for a colourful metaphor?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IF3157 View Post
    In my own experience:
    Ti analyzes info, says: "that's neither here nor there so toss it, but let's follow this little Ti-string and see where it leads us." Then, in the course of following the string, Ti comes to find the info wasn't total rubbish after all because now it sees the connection.
    Never happens to you?
    Of course some tossed things stay tossed.
    My theory is that if you tell someone what their function order is, even if it's made up and ludicrous, they'll start to think "Oh, when I do this it's my Ne etc.etc.etc...".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flak View Post
    My theory is that if you tell someone what their function order is, even if it's made up and ludicrous, they'll start to think "Oh, when I do this it's my Ne etc.etc.etc...".
    That's be your Ti backed up by your Ne with some Ni haunting it all in the background.
    Isn't it time for a colourful metaphor?

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    very well put ^
    "Honest differences are often a healthy sign of progress. "

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xander View Post
    That's be your Ti backed up by your Ne with some Ni haunting it all in the background.
    That's what I thought IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW

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    I see what Xander is getting at, it's also one of the reasons why I drop signs while doing formulas if I'm going too fast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by runvardh View Post
    I see what Xander is getting at, it's also one of the reasons why I drop signs while doing formulas if I'm going too fast.
    I write in my own shorthand lol. I do the same thing with math ^
    "Honest differences are often a healthy sign of progress. "

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    Quote Originally Posted by IF3157 View Post
    heehee
    I am at work . . . I have to skim read here. I think we're partly on the same page, sort of. The language is what threw me. People sometimes say "just throwing that out there", to mean they are "just suggesting/conveying a piece of information." Hence the confusion re my first response to you.
    I still don't entirely agree that INTPs "don't even consider it" before discarding the info, since they have to Ti-consider and deem it irrelevant before discarding it. But once they have deemed it irrelevant, yup: out it goes.
    I know this is a few pages back, but I think he used the phrase in both contexts. To mean share information in on eplace (Throwing it out there) and throwing it away/disregarding it (Toss it out)

    Quote Originally Posted by Xander View Post
    Err no not really. As soon as Ti junks it unless my intuition or other external sources suggest I should continue I move on. Too much to do to ponificate everything...
    Sometimes that external source has to shout....

    Anyway you try living with information having to pass Ne first... it's like nothing is ever irrelevant... :S makes for a heavy work load...

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    In light of my learned friends thinking would it be more clear to suggest that EJs and IPs tag information with a relevance value AS they collect it and EPs and IJs do that after they've collected it?
    Isn't it time for a colourful metaphor?

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