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    Default Extraversion and Talkativeness

    On first impressions, one generally assumes that the Extraverts of the world are the talkative socialisers, while the Introverts are quiet listeners.

    What I am interested in is situations/cases when that is not the case. Are talkativeness and extraversion necessarily related? Or is perhaps talkativeness affected by another dichotomy other than E/I? Is it possible/normal to have an extravert quieter than an introvert? Is it just a temporary thing? How would one tell the difference? What other factors might come into play?

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    if you do step II, they'll split up the E vs I into 5 parts. only one of them is expressiveness and only in that do they mention the word 'talk'. the other parts are active, gregarious, initiating and enthusiastic. you can do a lot of that without talking your ass off. sure, you'll need to talk, but not necessarily as much as one may think an extravert does. my father is an INTP, an introvert. he has a high score on the E side on expressiveness despite this inclination. during conferences and whatnot, he's always talking. hope this answers your question.

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    I don't talk very much for an extravert. My introverted wife talks more than I do as a whole. Having said that though I do think there is a correlation between extraversion and talkativeness.
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    I can talk all day if the subject interests me. I think introverts are more reticent at first, but once they feel comfortable, some can be as talkative as extroverts.

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    I've never done the step II, maybe I should..

    Talkativeness & expressiveness doesn't really always correspond with E/I. It's more about how comfy you are with people and do you prefer time alone or time around people. And the stuff the animenagai mentioned. I'm pretty talkative and expressive but definitely an I, the talkativeness comes out once the group is small enough and I'm comfy. Then I tend to talk more than the E types. But there is some correlation in my humble opinion anyways.

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    Might how comfy you feel around people in general have more to do with social anxiety than I/E? A mature Introvert would not necessarily feel uncomfortable in a large group/crowd, would they?

    Might one describe an extravert as someone you find interacting and engaging with other people, even when in an uncomfortable situation, while Introverts tend to reserve their talkativeness for situations that are familiar and comfortable?
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    Extraverts are just oriented to the objective world.

    Introverts are oriented to their inner world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arcticangel02 View Post
    Might how comfy you feel around people in general have more to do with social anxiety than I/E? A mature Introvert would not necessarily feel uncomfortable in a large group/crowd, would they?
    Not necessarily uncomfortable, nope, but still more withdrawn. Large crowds draw more energy especially if you need to socialize. I think I used the wrong word here, my bad. Maybe I should say doesn't like or prefer?
    Social anxiety is more a fear based tihng so I'm thinking sure it can make you feel uncomrtable, but I think it's more of an anxiety issue. Uncomfortable feeling can come from various things.
    Quote Originally Posted by arcticangel02 View Post
    Might one describe an extravert as someone you find interacting and engaging with other people, even when in an uncomfortable situation, while Introverts tend to reserve their talkativeness for situations that are familiar and comfortable?
    My ENTP friend pushes me into action when she uncomfy, she shuts up and I handle the talking. I think that's a personality thing..

    I'm going to use her and me as an example. She enjoys people and being around people, but doesn't talk much. But when she talks she is more open, gregarious, doesn't focus on the company and expressive all in all, still but quiet and short answers. Me? I talk a lot but I don't express myself much, I don't start the conversations and will divert the attention if it comes to something personal. I'm probably talking about something impersonal or something taht is just blabber in my opinion.

    Extroverts may talk more as a whole, but I think you can't recognize an E type by the amount of talk, I think it's more about how we talk..

    I think Wikipedia article might explain it better than I can.
    Extraverting: Initiating, Expressive, Gregarious, Active, Enthusiastic
    Introverting: Receiving, Contained, Intimate, Reflective, Quiet

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    Most people, even introverts, say that they can talk a lot if they are talking about something that interests them. I am like that. Maybe the difference between me and the average introvert is that I proactively talk about things that interest me instead of just waiting for them to pop into the conversation. If the conversation doesn't interest me, I will take control and try to make it fun for everyone, and if they don't have any interest after multiple attempts, then I'll just shut up. I'm not pushy about it. If I think people are not interested, I won't bother them. I'm pretty focused, so once I start, it's hard to stop me. But I never just talk to random people about insignificant things. In that sense, I'm not talkative at all. I don't talk just for the sake of talking, I think that is annoying.

    I've always thought INTJs talk a lot.
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    ENTPs aren't talkers. They're doers. And INTPs are thinkers.

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